1997 Honda Civic

I BROUGHT MY 1997 HONDA CIVIC IN FOR A RECURRING PROBLEM WHICH WAS COVERED UNDER AN WARRANTY ISSUED BY HONDA FOR RESETTING AN EMISSIONS PROBLEM IN 1997 CIVICS. THIS IS THE SEVENTH TIME I HAD TO HAVE THIS LIGHT RESET. THE WARRANTY WAS FOR UP TO 150K MILES. THIS TIME I HAD 152K MILES. I WAS TOLD FROM NOW ON I WOULD HAVE TO PAY A $85 DIAGNOSTIC FEE PLUS REPAIR. THIS IS UNFAIR AS THIS IS A RECURRING PROBLEM THAT HAS NOT BEEN CORRECTED. AS THIS OCCURS ON AVERAGE EVERY 12,000 MILES I COULD HAVE TO PAY THIS DIAGNOSTIC FEE OF $85 PLUS PARTS FOR A RECURRING PROBLEM THAT HAS NOT BEEN FIXED. NOTE THAT A COWORKER WHO HAS THE SAME CAR HAD BROUGHT THE CAR IN NINE TIMES. THIS DEALER REPLACED THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER ON HER CAR AND THE LIGHT HAS NOT COME BACK ON. WHEN I BROUGHT THE CAR IN FOR THE REPAIR ABOVE I WAS TOLD THAT HONDA WOULD NOT REPAIR THE CAR UNTIL ALL THE NON-HONDA PARTS IN THE AREA AFFECTED WERE REPLACED. THE TOTAL OF THESE PARTS WAS $227. THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE $85 DIAGNOSTIC FEE. I WAS TOLD BY THE SERVICE MANAGER THAT THEY WOULD NOT EVEN LOOK AT THE CAR UNTIL THE NON-HONDA PARTS WERE REPLACED. I ASKED IF THEY COULD RESET THE ENGINE LIGHT AS THEY HAD IN THE PAST AND WAS TOLD NO. I ASKED FOR THE CAR BACK AND DID NOT REPLACE THE PARTS. I WAS CHARGED THE $85 DIAGNOSTIC FEE. THE LIGHT IS NOW OFF AND THE CAR RUNS FINE. I HAVE DRIVEN ANOTHER 6,000 MILES SINCE THAT TIME AND THE LIGHT HAS NOT COME BACK ON. THE OWNER'S MANUAL STATES THAT GENUINE HONDA PARTS ARE RECOMMENDED; IT DOES NOT SAY THEY ARE REQUIRED. THE OWNER'S MANUAL SHOULD STATE EXPLICITLY THAT THE USE OF HONDA ONLY PARTS IS REQUIRED OR DEALER MAY NOT SERVICE THE CAR. I FEEL THIS IS A VIOLATION OF MY RIGHT TO PATRONIZE A CERTIFIED SERVICE FACILITY. IF EXTENDED THIS TYPE OF POLICY COULD BE RUINOUS TO NON-DEALER SERVICE FACILITIES. I OPENED A CASE WITH AMERICAN HONDA AND THEY SAID THAT DEALERS ARE INDEPENDENTLY OWNED AND OPERATED AND THEY COULD DO NOTHING. THIS WHOLE POLICY EXPLOITS THE PUBLIC. *JB

MY ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON DUE TO THE FACT THAT I NEEDED TO REPLACE MY O2 SENSOR. WHILE ATTEMPTING TO REPLACE IT WE NOTICED A CRACK IN THE EXHAUST MANIFOLD. WHEN WE TOOK IT TO THE SHOP WE WERE TOLD THAT THIS WAS A COMMON PROBLEM WITH HONDA CIVICS. APPARENTLY THEY SEE THE MANIFOLDS START TO CRACK AROUND 110,000 MILES. THE COST WAS NEARLY $700 TO REPLACE IT.*AK

AFTER VEHICLE WARMS TO OPERATING TEMP. AND THE RPMS ARE BETWEEN 2000 AND 3000. THE VEHICLE BOGS DOWN, RELEASING THE THROTTLE OR PUSHING IN THE CLUTCH PEDAL AND THE VEHICLE IDLE IS NORMAL. IF THE THROTTLE IS PUSHED DOWN AND THE RPMS RISE, THE PROBLEM GOES AWAY. WHEN THIS OCCURS THE VEHICLE CAN BOG DOWN AND THEN STRAIGHTEN OUT THE SPEED WILL RESUME TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE. THIS IS AN INTERMITTENT PROBLEM WITH NO RHYME OR REASON ASSOCIATED WITH IT. I HAVE HAD THE VEHICLE IN THE SHOP SEVERAL TIMES AND HAVE ASKED COUNTLESS NUMBER OF PEOPLE. INTERNET SEARCH HAD SHOWN THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM AND NO ONE HAS AN ANSWER AS TO THE CAUSE OR THE RELIEF. THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING AS LONG AS I HAVE OWNED THE CAR AND I NOTICED IT THE FIRST TIME I DROVE IT. I BOUGHT IS USED AND IT HAD NO WARRANTY. VEHICLE NEEDED EXHAUST MANIFOLD AND TIRES WHEN I BOUGHT IT. NOTHING ELSE WAS MENTIONED. I FEEL THIS IS A HAZARD, AS IT IS UNPREDICTABLE AND IT HAS OCCURRED IN PARKING LOTS, AS WELL AS ON THE OPEN ROAD. I HAVE READ OTHER PEOPLE HAVING THIS PROBLEM AND IT SEEMS TO BE ONLY WITH THE HONDA 1.6 LITER SOHC VTEC 16Y8 ENGINE. THIS IS THE ENGINE THAT I HAVE IN MY CIVIC EX. *NLM

SINCE OCT '02, I HAVE HAD MY CAR IN AND OUT OF THE DEALERSHIP DUE TO THE RECALL FOR EMISSIONS. EACH TIME, THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT HAS COME ON, I HAVE TAKEN IT TO THE DEALERSHIP AND HAD THE PROBLEM FIXED. THE FIRST TIME, THE COMPUTER WENT BAD AND WAS REPLACED. THE SECOND TIME, THE O2 SENSOR WENT BAD AND THE CAR STALLED OUT ON A BUSY INTERSTATE IN NC WHERE CONSTRUCTION IS BEING DONE AND THERE ARE NO SHOULDERS TO PULL OFF ON. I BELIEVE HONDA SHOULD REPLACE THE ENTIRE EMISSIONS SYSTEM COVERED UNDER THE WARRANTY INSTEAD OF COSTING THEIR CONSUMERS TIME AND A LOT OF AGGRAVATION BY FIXING THE PROBLEMS ONE AT A TIME. THIS WILL ABSOLUTELY BE THE LAST HONDA I OWN DUE TO THIS ONE SITUATION. I'M SICK OF SPENDING TIME IN THE DEALERSHIP HAVING TO WAIT FOR THEM TO TELL ME WHAT THE CURRENT PROBLEM IS. A CAR THAT IS 6 YEARS OLD SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE WHOLE EMISSIONS SYSTEM REPLACED IN THE FIRST PLACE. THIS IS RIDICULOUS AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO FIX IT.

I HAD THE CHECKED AT KOLBE HONDA WHEN THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON. I THOUGHT THE PORBLEMS RELATED WITH THE CHECK ENGINE WOULD BE COVERED BY MFG WARRANTY IT WAS NOT. AFTER I HAVE LEARNED THAT THREE SENSORS DEFECTED AS FOUND IN DIAGNOSTIC PROCESS. I WENT ON TO REPLACE ALL THREE SENSORS AND THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT STILL COMES ON. SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT, I DO PLAN ON MAKING A APPOINTMENT WITH KOLBE TO FURTHER MORE ON DIAGNOSTIC AND DETERMINE IF THIS IS COVERED BY MANUFACTORY RECALL OR WARRANTY COVERAGE. I ALSO HAVE A TRANSMISSION PROBLEM, AFTER 45 MINUTES OF DRIVING ON CITY STREETS. THE TRANSMISSION STARTS TO SLIP OR HESITATE AT TAKE OFF, FROM SECOND GEAR TO FOURTH SHIFT SPEED ALSO CHANGES. LIKE IN THE BEGINNING THE SHIFT PATTERNS APPEARS NORMAL, 1ST GEAR (0MPH TO 25MPH) 2 GEAR (25MPH TO 35MPH) 3 GEAR (35MPH TO 45-50 MPH) 4 GEAR (DIRECT DRIVE), AFTER 45 MINUTES OF DRIVING IT IS REDUCED BY 10MPH AT GEARS. I CAN'T AFFORD RENTAL CAR IF THE DEALERSHIP REQUIRES TO HOLD THE VEHICLE FOR MORE THAN ONE DAY. MY WIFE AND I AND MY KIDS CARPOOL IN THIS CAR DAILY, IT IS OUR ONLY TRANSPORTATION. DT