2017 Kia Soul

MY VEHICLE HAS THE SPEAKER LIGHTS PACKAGE... FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS, I HAVE NOTICED THAT WHEN IM DRIVING MY SPEAKER LIGHTS WILL SOMETIMES FLASH EVEN WITH THE SWITCH SET TO OFF. OTHER TIMES IT WILL CYCLE THROUGH THE MOOD SETTING...AGAIN WHILE THE SWITCH IS OFF. SOME TIMES IT WILL DO BOTH...MOOD LIGHTING AND FLASHING TO BEAT OF THE MUSIC...WHILE SWTICHED TO OFF. ON 2/6/2021, I BROUGHT MY CAR IN FOR SERVICING. I MENTIONED THE ISSUE TO MY SERVICE ADVISOR. TOLD ME THEY WOULD LOOK AT IT...COOL. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I LEAVE, THEN COME BACK TO CHECK THE STATUS OF MY CAR. TELLS ME THEY CAN'T REPRODUCE THE ISSUE. HA! I HAVE A VIDEO...I SHOW IT TO THE SERVICE ADVISOR WHO TELLS ME TO GO WAIT IN THE LOBBY AND HE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. ABOUT 30 MINUTES PASS, MY CAR IS DONE. HE TELLS ME THAT THEY STILL CAN'T MAKE IT DO WHAT I SHOWED HIM. I'M GUESSING A VIDEO ISN'T REAL PROOF THERE IS A REAL ELECTRICAL ISSUE GOING ON. THE SERVICE ADVISOR TELLS ME TO "SWING BY" WHEN IT HAPPENS. MIND YOU I LIVE ABOUT AN HOUR AWAY, I ONLY WENT TO FRIENDLY KIA BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THEY WERE GOOD. APPARENTLY NOT! ANYWAY, THERE IS AN ISSUE KIA IS REFUSING TO ADDRESS. I'M GUESSING NO ONE THERE KNOWS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A KIA VEHICLE WERE TO CATCH FIRE DUE TO A SHORT IN THE SYSTEM JUST DAYS AFTER HAVING IT IN DUE TO AN ISSUE WITH THE SPEAKER LIGHTS HAVING A SHORT. THAT WOULD NOT LOOK GOOD BEING TOLD ALL OVER THE MEDIA, THEN IN COURT WHEN THAT PERSON SUES YOU FOR DAMAGES DUE TO AN ISSUE YOU REFUSED TO CORRECT WITH VIDEO PROOF...ABOUT 20 SECONDS OF PROOF THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE!

WHEN DRIVING MY CAR 1 HOUR OR MORE AND TURN OFF THE CAR AND TURN ON AGAIN MY CAR AND IMMEDIATELY TURN ON THE AC MY CAR ENGINE SHAKES AND TURN OFF THE MOTOR. I LEFT MY CAR IN THE DEALER WHEN I BUY THE CAR IN 4 TIMES BUT NOBODY FOUND THE PROBLEM. SO I FEEL FEAR FOR WILL HAVE AN ACCIDENT. PLEASE I NEED HELP. I HAVE THIS PROBLEM SINCE 2018.*DT*JB *TR

THE ENGINE STARTED MAKING A TICKING NOISE. WHICH GOT LOUDER AND FASTER AS I DROVE. I WENT 20 MINUTES DOWN THE RODE AND THE CAR STOPPED AND STARTED ROLLING FORWARD WITH NO POWER AS IF I WAS IN NEUTRAL. I TRIED TO JUMP THE CAR AND DID NOT SUCCEED, THE OIL WAS BONE DRY. I ADDED OIL AND THE SAME NOISE AROSE AND THE CAR STOPPED AGAIN. LASTLY. I COULD NOT GET MY CAR TO GO 2-4 MIN WITHOUT IT TURNING OFF. I WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A VIDEO OF THIS HAPPENING, I DO COULD NOT LOAD THE FILE CHOOSEN

WHILE CAR WAS IN MOTION BACKING IN MY DRIVEWAY, I WAS ABLE TO PULL DRIVERS HANDLE WHILE LOCK ENGAGED AND DOOR OPENED WHILE VEHICLE WAS STILL MOVING. ALTHOUGH I PLANNED ON OPENING THE DOOR AS CAR CAME TO A REST I WAS SURPRISED HOW EASY IT WAS TO OPEN WHILE CAR IS MOVING, AND DOOR HAD DONE SO PREMATURELY THEN I EXPECTED. CONCERNED I TESTED WHILE DRIVING FORWARD LIKE 20 MPH & DOOR OPENS WHEN GRABBING ON HANDLE. MY CONCERN IS WHILE THE VEHICLE IS IN MOTION ONE SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO MANUALLY UNLOCK ANY DOOR BEFORE IT OPENS. I ADDRESSED WITH MY KIA DEALER AND THEY TOLD ME THIS IS NORMAL THAT OPENING HANDLE OVERIDES THE LOCK. THIS WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO WHEN CAR IS PARKED, NOT WHEN THE TRANSMISSION IS ENGAGED. I HAVE 2004 SATURN AND MINE DOESNT DO THAT. I UNDERSTAND DOOR/LOCK FEATURES CAN VARY FROM MANUFACTURER TO MANUFACTURER. I CAN SEE A BENEFIT TO THE HANDLE OVERIDE FEATURE THAT PEOPLE COULD BE IN PANIC IN CASE OF FIRE OR OTHER DANGER THAT ALL THEY THINK ABOUT IS THE HANDLE AND STAY TRAPPED BECAUSE THEY FORGET ABOUT THE LOCK. THE CONSUMER SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DECIDE IF THIS IS A FEATURE THEY WANT ENABLED OR NOT. KIA HAS TOLD ME THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO. I FEEL THIS IS A BIG SAFETY CONCERN SINCE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS BARELY GRAB HANDLE AND DOOR RELEASES; DONT NEED TO PULL HANDLE ALL THE WAY. IF NOTHING ELSE IT SHOULD RELEASE AFTER 5-10 SECONDS OF CONTINUOUS PRESSURE WHILE HANDLE IS IN MAXED OUT OPENING POSITION TO OPEN DOOR WHILE TRANSMISSION IS IN ANY GEAR OTHER THAN PARK. AND IF NOTHING ELSE, ONLY THE DRIVERS DOOR SHOULD BE ABLE TO OPEN WHILE CARS IN MOTION WHILE PULLING ON HANDLE. FRONT PASSENGER DOOR TESTED AND DOES SAME THING. KIA SAYS ONLY THE REAR DOORS SHOULD STAY SECURE WITH CHILD LOCKS, I DISAGREE! HAD ANOTHER TIME WHEN I WAS GONNA BE DROPPED OFF AS A PASSENGER AND PLANNED ON OPENENING DOOR, IT FLEW WIDE-OPEN WHEN TURNING IN DRIVEWAY AND ALMOST DAMAGED 2 CARS!

THE BLIND SPOT DETECTION FAILS TO SEE MOST BUSES, RVS, AND LARGE TRUCKS WITH TRAILERS. IT SEEMS THAT ABOUT 90% OF THESE VEHICLE TYPES IT DOES NOT SEE. CARS ARE NOT A PROBLEM. WE NOTICED THAT HIS WAS THE CASE NEARLY EVERY TIME WE PASSED A SEMI OR BUS. I COULD BE GOING 40 TO 75 MPH. SPEED DID NOT SEEM TO MATER. I REPORTED THIS TO THE DEALER AND THEY SAID YES IT DOES THIS ON THIS MODEL. WHY PAY FOR BLIND SPOT DETECTION WHEN IT CANNOT SEE A TRUCK?

THE HANDS-FREE BLUETOOTH TELEPHONE CONNECT SYSTEM IN MY CAR, AND ALL 2017 KIA SOUL AND SEDONA MODELS WITH THE BASE STEREO SYSTEM, DOES NOT ALLOW HANDS-FREE OPERATION WITH ANDROID PHONES. ONLY APPLE PHONES ARE SUPPORTED. TO MAKE A CALL WITH AN ANDROID PHONE ONE MUST MANIPULATE EITHER THE HANDSET ITSELF, OR THE RADIO BUTTONS AND KNOBS IN THE DASH. THIS VIOLATES THE DRIVING LAW IN MY STATE AND I'M SURE MANY OTHERS. IT'S ALSO EXCEEDINGLY DISTRACTING AND UNSAFE. THE SALES BROCHURE FOR THESE CARS CLEARLY STATES THAT THE SYSTEM HAS FULL FUNCTIONALITY WITH BOTH ANDROID AND IPHONE DEVICES. NEITHER SALES, OR SERVICE MANAGERS AT THE DEALERSHIPS HAD BEEN NOTIFIED OF THIS DEFECT, AND WERE AS SHOCKED AS I WAS TO LEARN THE FACTS OF THE MATTER. I CONTACTED KIA CORPORATE OFFICES IN CALIFORNIA, AND WAS SUBSEQUENTLY CALLED BY AN ESCALATION REPRESENTATIVE WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE, WHO AT LEAST CLAIMED NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE DEFECT AND PROMISED A SOLUTION, OR THEY WOULD TAKE THE CAR BACK AND REFUND MY DOWN PAYMENTS PLUS DAMAGES. AFTER THREE WEEKS OF NO REPLY TO THE FEW GENTLE MESSAGES I LEFT, I FINALLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM WHERE HE INFORMED ME THAT - THE SYSTEM IS WORKING CORRECTLY AS DESIGNED, IT IS DESIGNED FOR USE WITH THE IPHONE - HE ALSO SAID THAT KIA WAS WILLING TO BUY ME AN IPHONE TO SETTLE THE MATTER. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A SOLUTION. THE SALES MANAGER AT MY DEALERSHIP SAYS THAT HE HAS SPOKEN WITH HIS FACTORY REP ABOUT THE MATTER BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO COMMENT AND NONE IS EXPECTED. SO I'M COMPELLED TO MAKE THIS REPORT TO YOU, AND I INTEND TO, AS THEY SAY, BLOW UP THE INTERNET, WITH POSTINGS EXPOSING THIS DEFECT AND THE CORPORATE RESPONSE. PLEASE FIND ATTACHED KIA PITSTOP DEALER TECHNICAL OPERATIONS NETWORK BULLETIN #PS462 DESCRIBING THIS DEFECT. THIS WAS PROVIDED BY THE DEALER SERVICE MANAGER, WHO LIKE ME IS SHOCKED BY THIS, BUT TOLD ME TODAY TO EXPECT NOTHING FROM KIA.

I PURCHASED A NEW 2017 KIA SOUL +. I HAVE AN ANDROID PHONE AND TOLD THE SALES PERSON I WANTED 2 THINGS. 1) HANDSFREE DIALING AND A BACKUP CAMERA. THEIR DESCRIPTION NEVER STATED, NOR DID YOURS ON YOUR WEBSITE, THAT THE HANDSFREE ONLY WORKS WITH IPHONES. I HAD A 2016 KIA SOUL AND IT WORKED PERFECTLY. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND FALSE ADVERTISING. ANDROID PHONE USERS HAVE OVER 55% OF THE CELL PHONE MARKET AND WHY YOU TOOK THIS FEATURE AWAY FROM YOUR CAR IS A BAD MOVE. THEN NOT TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN SHOPPING, IS ANOTHER BAD MOVE. IM SURE LESS PEOPLE WOULD BUY YOUR CARS IF THEY KNEW THEIR ANDROID PHONES WON'T WORK. I AM VERY UPSET BECAUSE I KNOW I WOULDNT HAVE PURCHASED THIS CAR HAD I KNOWN I NEED AN IPHONE TO USE THE HANDSFREE DIALING. I AM GOING TO REPORT THIS TO THE BBB BECAUSE THE SALES PERSON LIED TO ME EVEN THO THEY SAID THEY TOO WERE UNAWARE THAT YOU TOOK THIS FEATURE AWAY FROM THE CARS. YOU NEED TO FIX THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY KIA OWNERS ON THE FORUMS WHO ARE UPSET ABOUT THIS ISSUE. YOU CANT ADVERTISE THAT A CAR HAS AN OPTION BUT NOT TELL THEM ONLY IF YOU HAVE IPHONE THIS OPTION WILL WORK. AGAIN, ITS A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE TOO.