2013 Honda Pilot

MY 2013 HONDA PILOT ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS SHORTLY AFTER PURCHASING STARTED TO SHOW A VIBRATION THROUGH THE GAS PEDAL AND STEERING COLUMN THAT CAN BE FELT BY PASSENGER ALSO. IT APPEARS TO BE A MANUFACTURERS DEFECT WITH THE VCM/ECO MODES OF THE VEHICLE. I HAVE TAKEN BACK TO DEALERSHIP A COUPLE OF TIMES AND CALLED THEM SEVERAL TIMES CONCERNING THIS DEFECT. HONDA SAYS THIS IS "NORMAL". IT IS FAR FROM NORMAL. THE VEHICLE VIBRATES AT ALL SPEEDS AND IS INHERENTLY DANGEROUS. I AM GETTING NO WHERE WITH HONDA. THANK YOU *TR

VEHICLE CONSTANTLY VIBRATES/SHUDDERS AS ENGINE RUN IN ECO MODE AND AS VCM KICKS IN/OUT OR IS IN USE. I SEE HUNDREDS OF SAME COMPLAINT ON HONDA MESSAGE BOARDS AND ALL HAVE GOTTEN THE SAME RESPONSE FROM HONDA. THEY INDICATE IT IS NORMAL OPERATION AND NOTHING THEY CAN DO. ANYONE THAT'S DRIVEN A VEHICLE FOR MORE THAN A FEW HOURS CAN TELL YOU IT'S NOT NORMAL FOR A VEHICLE TO VIBRATE LIKE THAT. IN MY DRIVING, I FIND IT TO BE NOT ONLY ANNOYING, BUT VERY DISTRACTING AS I'M CONSTANTLY TRYING TO CHANGE SPEEDS/RPM, ETC. TO MAKE THE VIBRATIONS GO AWAY. THIS CONSTANT DISTRACTION IS A SAFETY CONCERN. I IMPLORE YOU TO GET HONDA TO OWN THE SITUATION AND FIND A FIX. *TR

WHENEVER I DRIVE BETWEEN 35-45 MPH THE CAR SHUDDERS AND VIBRATES. THERE IS NO VIBRATION THRU THE STEERING WHEEL. I FEEL IT THRU THE CAR SEAT, BACK, AND CENTER STORAGE LID. PASSENGERS HAVE REMARKED "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR CAR?" AT 35 MPH THE CAR DRIVES VERY SMOOTH. BY 35 MPH IT'S LIKE DRIVING A DIFFERENT CAR. THE VIBRATION IS GETTING MORE PRONOUNCED AS MILES ACCRUE. *TR

I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2013 HONDA PILOT IN SEPTEMBER 2013. FROM THE FIRST DAY OF DRIVING IT, I NOTICED A VIBRATION COMING FROM THE DRIVE TRAIN/ENGINE/TRANSMISSION WHEN THE ENGINE WAS SWITCHING INTO "ECO" MODE. THE VIBRATION CAN BE FELT THROUGH THE STEERING WHEEL, GAS PEDAL, AND FLOOR BOARD. IT BECOMES WORSE WHEN CRUISING AT A LOW RPM, OR WHEN CLIMBING A HILL (NO MATTER HOW STEEP THE HILL IS) WHEN THE ECO MODE IS ENGAGED. THE VIBRATION ONLY STOPS WHEN THE CAR IS REQUIRED TO INCREASE THE RPM, EITHER FROM MANUALLY DEPRESSING THE GAS PEDAL, OR THE COMPUTER DECIDING IT NEEDS MORE POWER. THE VEHICLE DOES NOT EXPERIENCE THIS VIBRATION UNTIL THE ENGINE WARMS UP AND THE ECO MODE ENGAGES. WHEN THE ENGINE IS COLD, THE ECO MODE DOES NOT KICK IN, AND THERE IS NO VIBRATION. I NOW HAVE 5600 MILES ON THE PILOT, AND THE PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE GETTING WORSE. I'VE TAKEN THE CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP, WHO WITHOUT TAKING IT FOR A TEST DRIVE ADVISED THAT "THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM WITH THE ECO MODE ON BOTH THE PILOT'S AND ODYSSEY'S". THEY WENT ON TO TELL ME THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO TO FIX IT, AS HONDA HAS DETERMINED THAT THIS IS "NORMAL OPERATION". IN ADDITION TO FILING A COMPLAINT WITH THE DEALERSHIP, I HAVE ALSO FILED A COMPLAINT WITH HONDA CUSTOMER CARE. NO RESOLUTION TO DATE. HAD THE SALESMAN TOLD ME ABOUT THIS "NORMAL OPERATING VIBRATION ISSUE", I WOULD NOT HAVE PURCHASED THE VEHICLE. *TR

VEHICLE VIBRATION/RUMBLING/SHUTTERING AT SPEEDS AROUND 35-55MPH. APPARENTLY DUE TO VCM(VEHICLE CYLINDER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM) MOST NOTICEABLE WHEN BACKING OFF ACCELERATOR AFTER VEHICLE REACHES CONSTANT SPEED AND ECO LIGHT IS ON, BUT CAN OCCUR WEATHER ECO LIGHT IS ON OR NOT. VIBRATION IS FELT THROUGH OUT ENTIRE VEHICLE BUT AS A DRIVER, IT IS FELT THROUGH THE SEAT, STEERING WHEEL AND CENTER CONSOLE. THIS VIBRATION IS VERY UNPLEASANT AND ANNOYING. VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER DUE TO US JUST PURCHASING IT WITH ONLY 10 MILES ON IT. THE FIRST TIME THEY REBALANCED THE TIRES. THIS DID NOT HELP. SECOND TIME I TOOK THE SERVICE MANAGER OUT FOR A TEST RIDE TO SHOW HIM WHAT I MEANT. HE FELT THE SAME VIBRATION/SHUTTER/RUMBLE. WE THEN WENT BACK TO THE DEALERSHIP AND TOOK OUT ANOTHER NEW HONDA PILOT THAT WAS ON THE LOT. THE ROAD TEST CAME BACK WITH THE SAME RESULTS. SERVICE MANAGER THEN TOLD ME THAT THE VIBRATION I WAS FEELING WAS DUE TO THE VCM AS THE DIFFERENT CYLINDERS FIRED AND THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT AND THAT I WOULD JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT UNTIL HONDA COMES OUT WITH A WAY TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM, WHICH AS FAR AS HE KNOWS THEY HAVE NO INTENTION TO DO SO. APPARENTLY HONDA SAYS THAT THIS IS PART OF NORMAL OPERATION. I PAID OVER $36,000.00 DOLLARS FOR THIS VEHICLE AND FEEL THAT IS NOT NORMAL OPERATION, AND THAT HONDA NEEDS TO CORRECT THIS. *TR

LETTER FROM CONSTITUENT REGARDING HONDA'S 2013 PILOT RECALL (NHTSA RECALL 13V-382/CAMPAIGN#JB5/SERVICE BULLETIN #13-075); HE HAS BEEN UNABLE TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM FROM AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO. OR UNIVERSITY MOTORS; REQUESTING ASSISTANCE FROM NHTSA. *SMD THE CONSUMER STATED HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE LONG BLOCK AND SHORT BLOCK REPLACED. HE STATED HE TALKED TO THREE DIFFERENT AUTOMOTIVE MECHANICS, AND IT WAS IN THEIR OPINION THAT REPLACING ONLY THE SHORT BLOCK OF THE ENGINE WAS NOT A TRUSTWORTHY FIX. THE SHORT BLOCK REPAIR PERFORMED UNDER NON-FACTORY CONDITIONS, WHICH COULD LEAD TO CONTAMINATION OF THE ENGINE, THAT WOULD CAUSE SERIOUS ISSUES AND ENGINE FAILURE IN THE FUTURE. THE CONSUMER STATED THE DEALER WOULD NOT RETURN HIS CALLS. ALSO, THE CONSUMER WAS NOT GETTING THE PROPER GAS MILEAGE AS ADVERTISED. THE VEHICLE WAS RATED BETWEEN 16 AND 17 MPG, AND HE WAS GETTING 13 MPG. THE VEHICLE ROLLED BACKWARD ON A SLIGHT INCLINE, WHILE IN DRIVE, THERE WAS A VIBRATION/SHUDDER COMING THROUGH THE VEHICLE, WHEN MAINTAINING A CONSTANT SPEED.

I HAVE A 2013 HONDA PILOT, LESS THAN 1 MONTH SINCE PURCHASE. AT SPEEDS FROM 20 MPH TO 70 MPH MY ENGINE AND CAR WILL, VIBRATE, SHUDDER. THERE IS ALSO A LOW FREQUENCY NOISE THAT SEEMS TO VIBRATE IN MY EAR WHICH IS ALSO QUITE A DISTRACTION. IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN MOST WHEN I AM ON A FLAT OR SLIGHT INCLINE. THE ONLY WAY TO GET IT TO STOP IS TO EITHER SPEED UP OR LET OFF THE GAS. THIS IS VERY DISTRACTING WHILE DRIVING AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS, AND VERY FRUSTRATING SINCE IT IS A NEW VEHICLE. I HAVE TAKEN IT BACK TO THE HONDA DEALERSHIP AND THEY SAID THAT THEY FEEL THE PROBLEM, BUT THEY SAID THAT AMERICAN HONDA STATES THAT THIS IS NORMAL FOR THIS VEHICLE. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS COULD BE NORMAL. A ROUGH FEELING, VIBRATING CABIN AND SHUDDERING ENGINE IS NOT A NORMAL OPERATING CAR. IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING WILL BREAK OR COME LOOSE, WHICH MAKES ME VERY NERVOUS AS MY CHILDREN COMMUTE WITH ME EVERY DAY. *TR

VIBRATION, HUMMING NOISE WHILE IN ECO MODE. AT SLOWER SPEEDS WHILE FEATHER GAS, ECO CAN SOMETIMES SEEMS TO GET CONFUSED ABRUPTLY TURN OFF CAUSING A JOLT LIKE FEELING. AT TIMES, ECO SEEMS CONFUSED WHETHER TO FIRE ON 2, 4, OR 6 CYLINDERS AND CAN BECOME IN ALMOST WHAT I CALL AN ARRHYTHMIA TYPE FEELING, WITH THE VIBRATION JUMPING AROUND UNTIL IT FINDS WHAT IT WANTS TO DO. NOTICED THE ISSUE SINCE I DROVE IT OFF THE LOT. AS EXPECTED, DEALER SAYS THEY CAN'T FIND ANY ISSUE. VIBRATION CAN BE SO BAD THAT I SOMETIMES THINK IT IS THE ROAD, BUT IT IS NOT. WOULD DUMP CAR BUT WOULD LOOSE MONEY. VERY UNFORTUNATE AND WILL NOT BE BUYING A HONDA AGAIN. IF YOU ARE LOOKING INTO ONE, PLEASE BE SURE TO TEST DRIVE AT ALL SPEEDS, ESPECIALLY CRUISING AT SLOW AND FASTER SPEEDS. CRUISING AND FEATHERING THE GAS IS WHEN YOU NOTICE IT MOST. *TR

MY HONDA PILOT STALLED WITHOUT ANY WARNING AND WITHOUT ANY ENGINE LIGHTS APPEARING WHILE DRIVING ON TWO WAY SIDE ROADS AND ENTERING A HIGHWAY. EMERGENCY BRAKE RELEASE HANDLE WAS NOT WORKING OR RELEASING THE BRAKE APPROPRIATELY SAME DAY. HONDA CAN'T REPLICATE THE ISSUE SO THEY SAY THE CAR IS TO GO WITH ME. NO EXPLANATION FOR INCIDENT. MANUFACTURER HAD THEM PUT SOMETHING IN THE COMPUTER TO READ 15 SECOND PRIOR TO AND AFTER A STALL. THIS IS AN UNSAFE VEHICLE TO DRIVE FOR ME, MY FAMILY AND ANYONE AROUND ME IF IT IS UNDIAGNOSED AND UNEXPECTED. POWER STEERING AND BRAKES LOST SO RISKS ARE HIGH. I RUN THE RISK OF CAUSING AN ACCIDENT, INJURY, AND/OR DEATH TO ANYONE IN THE CAR OR OTHERS. I FILED A COMPLAINT WITH HONDA, [XXX] CASE # [XXX] WITHOUT RESOLUTION AND WASTOLD TO PICK THE CAR UP FROM THE DEALERSHIP OR I BE CHARGED A FEE. THE CAR WAS AT BERNARDI HONDA IN NATICK AND THEY DID ALL THEY COULD TO REPLICATE AND WORK WITH HONDA, I WAS TOLD BY THEM TO PICK THE CAR UP OR BE CHARGED A FEE. THEY ARE AWARE THAT THE MANUFACTURER IS INVOLVED. I WENT TO PICK THE CAR UP ON SATURDAY NOVEMBER 2, AND DISCOVERED THE EMERGENCY BRAKE RELEASE CORD IS STILL BROKEN AND THERE WERE SCRATCHES ON MY CAR. I LEFT IT THERE SO THEY COULD ORDER PARTS AND FIX SCRATCHES. PLEASE ASSIST IF ABLE. I READ ABOUT TWO RECALLS BY HONDA FOR THE PILOT AND ODYSSEY REGARDING UNEXPECTED BRAKING AND HOW YOU ASSISTED! THANKS. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR