2016 Honda Odyssey

My spark plugs keep wearing out due to a piston ring issue. The Honda dealers have informed my that after 100,000 I will need my piston rings replaced. This is an issue with Honda Odysseys. My vehicle idles hard and will not properly accelerate. It is a hazard on the roadway because I cannot accelerate as fast as I should and the vehicle loses engine power.

The contact owns a 2016 Honda Odyssey. The contact stated while driving approximately 70 MPH, the vehicle jerked violently. The check engine warning light was flashing. The contact exited the highway. The contact called the local dealer and the vehicle was taken to be diagnosed. The contact was informed that the cylinder failed and the vehicle loss engine compression. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was contacted and informed the contact that the repair was not covered under warranty. The failure mileage was approximately 111,000.

WE HAVE BEEN GETTING MULTIPLE WARNING LIGHTS (FCW, LDW, CHECK ENGINE) WHICH OCCUR WITH SLUGGISH ENGINE PERFORMANCE. THE ENGINE WILL MISFIRE AND NOT ACCELERATE AS IT TYPICALLY DOES OR SHUDDERS/JITTERS TRYING TO ACCELERATE. DIAGNOSTIC TOOL SHOWS P0303 FOR MISFIRE IN CYLINDER 3. I CHANGED OUT THE SPARK PLUG WHICH WAS VERY FOULED (SAVED IT) AND THIS FIXED IT FOR A FEW WEEKS AND THEN IT RETURNED. CHANGED OUT ALL SPARK PLUGS BUT ISSUES AND CODE ARE BACK AGAIN AFTER A FEW WEEKS.

DEFECTIVE PISTON RINGS ARE CAUSING SPARK PLUGS MISFIRE AND FOUL. THE SCENARIO SEEMS TO BE SIMILAR TO THE CLASS ACTION SUIT AS PER CASE NO. 3:12-CV-1377-SI. UNFORTUNATELY, IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE DEFECTIVE PISTON RINGS ISSUE WAS NOT RESOLVED. I'M CONCERNED THAT ANY REPLACEMENT WILL RESULT IN THE SAME ISSUE AGAIN WITH CONTINUED DRIVING. HONDA DEALERSHIPS ARE AWARE OF THE ISSUE AND HONDA US OFFERS VERY MINIMAL ASSISTANCE ON THE REPAIR. HOWEVER, THEY SHOULD BE FULLY LIABLE FOR SELLING CARS WITH DEFECTIVE DESIGN, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE PRIOR CASE. WHEN THIS ISSUE OCCURRED, IT PUT MY FAMILY IS AN UNSAFE CONDITION BECAUSE VEHICLE SUDDENLY LOST POWER AND THE ENGINE BEGAN TO STUTTER. AT THIS POINT MY VEHICLE IS UNDRIVABLE AND THIS HAS CONTRIBUTED TO FINANCIAL BURDEN IN AN ALREADY DIFFICULT YEAR DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. HONDA SHOULD OWN THIS ISSUE FOR THE 2016 MODEL YEAR THROUGH FULL COMPENSATION ON REPAIRS.

SUDDEN LOSS OF ENGINE POWER WHILE ATTEMPTING TO MERGE ON A HIGHWAY. FORTUNATELY I HAD A SHOULDER TO ESCAPE ONTO AS I COULD NOT MAKE IT UP TO HIGHWAY SPEED AND COULD NOT MERGE. FOUND OUT AFTERWARDS THAT THE CAUSE WAS SPARK PLUG FOULING AS A BUILD UP OCCURS DURING ECO MODE AS OIL BYPASSES THE PISTON RINGS ON CYLINDERS EQUIPPED WITH THE HONDA VCM (VARIABLE CYLINDER MANAGEMENT) SYSTEM. THE BUILD UP CONTINUES UNTIL THE ENGINE BEGINS TO MISFIRE AND TRIGGERS THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND THE ENGINE RUNS ROUGH, STUMBLES AND DRIVES IN 'LIMP ALONG' MODE. THIS PROBLEM HAS OCCURRED MULTIPLE TIMES (FIRST OCCURRENCE 03/25/2019, LATEST OCCURRENCE 04/16/2020) AND MY LOCAL HONDA SERVICE CENTER HAS FOUND DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE P0302 INDICATING A MISFIRE CONDITION IN CYLINDER #2. HONDA SERVICE PEOPLE CALL IT THE 'PISTON RING PROBLEM' AS IT IS A WELL KNOW MANUFACTURING DEFECT THAT HONDA DESCRIBES IN TSB 13-081 AND RESULTED IN A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT (CASE NO. 3:12-CV-1377-SI) AGAINST HONDA. THE LAWSUIT WAS SETTLED IN 2014 AND ALL 2008 THRU 2013 HONDA ODYSSEY MODELS WERE COVERED AND GIVEN AN EXTENDED 8 YEAR UNLIMITED MILEAGE DRIVE TRAIN WARRANTY IN THE SETTLEMENT. APPARENTLY THE DEFECT WAS NOT CORRECTED IN LATER MODELS AS MY 2016 HONDA ODYSSEY IS NOW EXHIBITING THE SAME EXACT SYMPTOMS. MY HONDA WAS 3 YEARS OLD AND HAD 69K MILES AT THE TIME OF THE FIRST OCCURRENCE. THE PROBLEM HAS REOCCURRED MULTIPLE TIMES AND YET HONDA HAS DECLINED TO COVER THE $3000 COST OF REPLACING THE PISTON RINGS (AS RECOMMENDED BY THE HONDA SERVICE CENTER) STATING THAT MY VEHICLE IS OUT OF WARRANTY AND MY VIN IS NOT COVERED BY THE SETTLEMENT.

INITIALLY NOTICED STARTING PROBLEM WHERE CAR WONT START. THEN GOT A P060A CODE AND VSA LIGHT NOTICED LOW BATTERY AND HOOKED UP A BATTERY CHARGER. I NOTICED A CLICKING SOUND LIKE THE STARTER WAS ENGAGING SEVERAL TIMES AND ALL THE CABIN LIGHTS WERE ON, ALL ON ITS OWN. I HAVE NOTICED THE CABIN LIGHT WAS ON BEFORE WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THE CAR AND I SIMPLY THOUGHT THAT KIDS OPENED THE DOOR BEFORE ME. NOW I AM SUSPICIOUS THAT THE CAR IS RUNNING THE STARTER AND TURNING ON THE CABIN LIGHT IS DRAINING THE BATTERY. THIS ISSUE MIGHT OCCURRED EARLIER AS I HAD TO CHANGE THE BATTERY AFTER ABOUT 2 YRS. AFTER THE CAR WAS BOUGHT NEW. THIS CAR IS EQUIPPED WITH PUSH BUTTON START.

I BROUGHT MY CAR TO A STOP AT A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION LEADING TO A FOUR LANE ROAD AND THE CAR WANTED TO LUNGE FORWARD. I HAD TO ALMOST STAND ON THE BREAK TO STOP THE CAR AND THE ENGINE ROARED. I TURNED IT OFF. I THEN STARTED THE ENGINE AGAIN AND IT DID THE SAME THING. I WAITED A FEW MINUTES AND STARTED IT AGAIN. THIS TIME IT WAS OK. I HAD THIS HAPPEN LAST YEAR AND TOOK IT IN TO HONDA. THEY COULD FIND NO PROBLEM. THIS COULD CAUSE A CAR TO GO INTO TRAFFIC IF THE DRIVER WAS NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

WORKMANSHIP BY HONDA SERVICE AND REPAIR CAUSED CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGE TO MY ODYSSEY 2016 CAR, WITH LESS THAN 32K MILES FOR NOW. VEHICLE WAS TIMELY SERVICED /REPAIRED BY FIESTA HONDA 6 TIMES IN LESS THAN 1.7 YEARS. REGISTERED A CASE WITH AMERICAN HONDA TO OFFER COMPLETE REPAIR, EXTENDED BUMPER TO BUMPER WARRANTY AND OUT OF THE POCKET EXPENSES. AMERICAN HONDA AND FIESTA HONDA REFUSED TO TAKE CARE OF THE EXTENDED WARRANTY AND OUT OF THE POCKET EXPENSES AND THEY HAVE COVERED UP THE CASE AND THEIR MISTAKES, THROUGH JUST BLAME GAME. PER DAVID HONDA FRISCO, WHO CHECKED THE VEHICLE INITIALLY -"'CYLINDER BLOCK ASSEMBLY: P3400/P3497 VALVE PAUSE STUCK OFF. CHECKED FOR LOW OIL AND OIL LEVEL WAS OVER FULL. ALSO FOUND BURNT OIL/SLUDGE STUCK ALL OVER DIP STICK. REMOVED VALVE COVERS AND REAR SPOOL VALVE ASSEMBLY AND FOUND OIL PASSAGE IN SPOOL. ASSEMBLY CLOGGED DUE TO NEGLIGENCE. OIL IS VERY DIRTY DUE TO OIL NOT BEING CHANGED CONSISTENTLY .' , WHEN THE ENGINE LIGHT ON MAY LAST WEEK, I BROUGHT IT TO DAVID HONDA FRISCO, FROM FRISCO, FIESTA HONDA HONDA TOWED THE VEHICLE TO SAN ANTONIO AND MANIPULATED THE CASE BY AMERICAN HONDA AND FIESTA HONDA. AMERICAN HONDA CASE MANAGER WAS VERY RUDE AND ARROGANT HANDLING THE CASE. AMERICAN HONDA AND FIESTA HONDA IS NOT EXPLAINING WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THE VEHICLE, THEY JUST SAY READY TO PICK UP. PROBABLY A MIRACLE HAPPENED TO THIS VEHICLE, HOW CAN WE TRUST THIS VEHICLE, FIESTA HONDA AND AMERICAN HONDA.