NHTSA owner reports · September 18, 2026 snapshot.
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1,520 reports27,223 miles · Nov 19, 2009
Service Brakes, Hydraulic
ON 2008,2009 AND POTENTIALLY 2010 HONDA ACCORDS , BRAKING DISTANCES ARE MAY LONGER DUE TO THE OVERLOADING OF THE REAR BRAKES. THIS OVERLOADING OF THE REAR BRAKES CAUSES PREMATURE WEAROUT (18,000 TO 27,000 MILES) OF THE REAR BRAKES. DUE TO A FAILURE TO BALANCE THE LOADS IN THE BRAKE SYSTEM, FRONT BRAKES MAY NOT PERFORMING THEIR P…
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ON 2008,2009 AND POTENTIALLY 2010 HONDA ACCORDS , BRAKING DISTANCES ARE MAY LONGER DUE TO THE OVERLOADING OF THE REAR BRAKES. THIS OVERLOADING OF THE REAR BRAKES CAUSES PREMATURE WEAROUT (18,000 TO 27,000 MILES) OF THE REAR BRAKES. DUE TO A FAILURE TO BALANCE THE LOADS IN THE BRAKE SYSTEM, FRONT BRAKES MAY NOT PERFORMING THEIR PROPER BRAKING FUNCTION. THIS IS CAUSING THE REAR BRAKES TO CARRY ADDITIONAL BRAKING LOADS AND WEAR OUT SOONER. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10292866
20,000 miles · Nov 17, 2009
Visibility
2008 HONDA ACCORD DRIVERS WINDSHIELD WIPER DRAGS THE WATER IT WAS SUPPOSE TO WIPE AWAY BACK INTO THE OPERATORS FIELD OF VISION. STARTS AT 40 TO 45 MPH WITH STEADY RAIN AND WORSENS AS THE VEHICLE SPEED INCREASES, AT 70 IT IS BAD. DEALER SAYS THAT IT DOES IT ON ALL ACCORDS AND THERE IS NO FIX. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10292568
17,000 miles · Nov 16, 2009
Service Brakes, Electric
PREMATURE BRAKE WEAR ON 2008 HONDA ACCORDS. THE BRAKES ON MY 2008 HONDA ACCORD NEEDED TO BE REPLACED AT 17,000. HONDA CLAIMS THIS IS NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR; HOWEVER, ANY SEASONED DRIVER KNOWS BRAKES SHOULD LAST MUCH LONGER. AFTER SOME RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET, IT APPEARS THAT THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM AMONG 2008 AND 2009 ACCORDS. …
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PREMATURE BRAKE WEAR ON 2008 HONDA ACCORDS. THE BRAKES ON MY 2008 HONDA ACCORD NEEDED TO BE REPLACED AT 17,000. HONDA CLAIMS THIS IS NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR; HOWEVER, ANY SEASONED DRIVER KNOWS BRAKES SHOULD LAST MUCH LONGER. AFTER SOME RESEARCH ON THE INTERNET, IT APPEARS THAT THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM AMONG 2008 AND 2009 ACCORDS. SOME ARE HAVING TO REPLACE BRAKES AT 9,000 MILES. TO ME, THIS IS A SAFETY HAZARD. I HAD NO IDEA MY BRAKES NEEDED REPLACING. THERE WERE NO WARNING SIGNS - NO SQUEAKING, NO CLICKING, THE CAR DID NOT DRIVE AND/OR BRAKE ANY DIFFERENTLY. TYPICALLY, I WOULD NOT HAVE THE BRAKES CHECKED AT 17,000 MILES FOR NO REASON. THE PROBLEM WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION ON A ROUTINE OIL CHANGE. TO ME, THIS IS A SAFETY HAZARD. HAD I NOT HAT THAT OIL CHANGE, I WOULD HAVE KEPT ON DRIVING AN UNSAFE CAR, WITH THE RISK OF A COMPLETE BRAKE FAILURE. THE DEALERSHIP WOULD NOT COVER THE COST ($270) BECAUSE HONDA IS NOT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH 2008 AND 2009 ACCORDS. IT IS NOT SAFE TO HAVE THIS MANY CARS ON THE ROAD WITH BRAKE ISSUES. I ELECTED TO TRADE IN THE CAR, RATHER THAN DEALING WITH HAVING TO REPLACE THE BRAKES EVERY 17,000 AND I DID NOT WANT TO DRIVE AN UNSAFE VEHICLE. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10292359
18,500 miles · Nov 15, 2009
Service Brakes, Electric
THE 2008 HONDA ACCORD HAS A BRAKING SYSTEM THAT WEARS TOO QUICKLY. I AM ALREADY DUE TO CHANGE THE REAR BRAKE PADS AND I ONLY HAVE 18500 MILES ON MY VEHICLE. MY BROTHER ALSO HAD TO CHANGE HIS BRAKES ON HIS 08 ACCORD AND HONDA WOULD NOT REPAIR FOR FREE. OBVIOUSLY THIS BRAKING SYSTEM IS DEFECTED AND NOT SAFE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT …
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THE 2008 HONDA ACCORD HAS A BRAKING SYSTEM THAT WEARS TOO QUICKLY. I AM ALREADY DUE TO CHANGE THE REAR BRAKE PADS AND I ONLY HAVE 18500 MILES ON MY VEHICLE. MY BROTHER ALSO HAD TO CHANGE HIS BRAKES ON HIS 08 ACCORD AND HONDA WOULD NOT REPAIR FOR FREE. OBVIOUSLY THIS BRAKING SYSTEM IS DEFECTED AND NOT SAFE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT NO REASONABLE HUMAN BEING SHOULD HAVE TO REPLACE BRAKES ON THEIR VEHICLE BEFORE 40-50000 MILES. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AND THE VEHICLES SHOULD BE RECALLED AND REPAIRED. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10292242
29,800 miles · Nov 15, 2009
Service Brakes, Hydraulic
THE REAR CALIPERS ON A 2008 HONDA ACCORD SEIZED UP AND CAUSED PREMATURE DESTRUCTION OF THE BRAKE PADS AND DAMAGED ROTORS.. THIS HAS RENDERED THE CAR UNSAFE ACCORDING TO A SERVICE TECH OF MY OWN AND THE DEALERSHIP. THE CALIPER REPAIR WILL BE COVERED UNDER WARRANTY BUT HONDA WILL NOT COVER THE COST OF THE DAMAGED BRAKES AND ROTO…
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THE REAR CALIPERS ON A 2008 HONDA ACCORD SEIZED UP AND CAUSED PREMATURE DESTRUCTION OF THE BRAKE PADS AND DAMAGED ROTORS.. THIS HAS RENDERED THE CAR UNSAFE ACCORDING TO A SERVICE TECH OF MY OWN AND THE DEALERSHIP. THE CALIPER REPAIR WILL BE COVERED UNDER WARRANTY BUT HONDA WILL NOT COVER THE COST OF THE DAMAGED BRAKES AND ROTORS. THIS PROBLEM OCCURRED WITH LESS THAN 30,000 MILES. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10292200
24,500 miles · Nov 12, 2009
Service Brakes, Hydraulic
2008 HONDA ACCORD LX-P 4 DOOR SEDAN WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION..HAS HAD BRAKE PROBLEMS FROM DAY ONE ( PURCHASED NEW AT TEMPE HONDA, TEMPE,AZ)....SQUEALING FROM INNER PADS DUE TO UNEVEN PRESSURE FROM CALIPERS.....HONDA REFUSES TO COME UP WITH A FIX....THIS IS THE 3RD SET OF BRAKE PADS ON A 25,000 MILE VEHICLE DRIVEN 90 PERCENT O…
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2008 HONDA ACCORD LX-P 4 DOOR SEDAN WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION..HAS HAD BRAKE PROBLEMS FROM DAY ONE ( PURCHASED NEW AT TEMPE HONDA, TEMPE,AZ)....SQUEALING FROM INNER PADS DUE TO UNEVEN PRESSURE FROM CALIPERS.....HONDA REFUSES TO COME UP WITH A FIX....THIS IS THE 3RD SET OF BRAKE PADS ON A 25,000 MILE VEHICLE DRIVEN 90 PERCENT ON THE OPEN HIGHWAY........HUGE DEFECT.... *TR
NHTSA ODI #10292025
16,000 miles · Nov 11, 2009
Service Brakes, Hydraulic
HONDA ACCORD (2008) REAR BRAKES ARE WORN TO THE SENSOR AT 16,000 MILES. NO WARNING. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10291888
9,000 miles · Nov 10, 2009
Service Brakes, Hydraulic
I ONLY HAVE 9000 MILES ON MY 2008 ACCORD AND MY MECHANIC TOLD ME WITH IN 2000 MILES I WILL NEED THE REAR BRAKES REPLACED. I NOTICED I AM NOT THE ONLY HONDA OWNER WITH THIS PROBLEM AND THAT THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF COMPLAINTS OF REAR BRAKES WITH PREMATURE WEAR. DOES SOME ONE HAVE TO BE INJURED OR KILLED BEFORE SOMETHING IS DONE. PLE…
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I ONLY HAVE 9000 MILES ON MY 2008 ACCORD AND MY MECHANIC TOLD ME WITH IN 2000 MILES I WILL NEED THE REAR BRAKES REPLACED. I NOTICED I AM NOT THE ONLY HONDA OWNER WITH THIS PROBLEM AND THAT THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF COMPLAINTS OF REAR BRAKES WITH PREMATURE WEAR. DOES SOME ONE HAVE TO BE INJURED OR KILLED BEFORE SOMETHING IS DONE. PLEASE SOME ONE HAS TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND FIX THIS SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH THE HONDA ACCORDS BECAUSE THE HONDA CO. SURE IS NOT GOING TOO. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10291687
Mileage unknown · Nov 7, 2009
Electrical System
LIGHTS DIM CONSTANTLY WHILE DRIVING THE CAR. CARS HAVE MOVED OUT OF MY LANE BECAUSE THE DIM IS SOMETIMES VERY STRONG. DEALERSHIP LOOKED AT SEVERAL TIMES AND FOUND NOTHING WRONG EXCEPT THAT THE CHARGING SYSTEM HAS SOME NEW COMPONENT PART THAT IS TO CREATE MORE "JUICE" WHEN NEEDED AND IT ISN'T SWITCH FAST ENOUGH, BUT NO REPAIR W…
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LIGHTS DIM CONSTANTLY WHILE DRIVING THE CAR. CARS HAVE MOVED OUT OF MY LANE BECAUSE THE DIM IS SOMETIMES VERY STRONG. DEALERSHIP LOOKED AT SEVERAL TIMES AND FOUND NOTHING WRONG EXCEPT THAT THE CHARGING SYSTEM HAS SOME NEW COMPONENT PART THAT IS TO CREATE MORE "JUICE" WHEN NEEDED AND IT ISN'T SWITCH FAST ENOUGH, BUT NO REPAIR WAS COMPLETED. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10291331
21,100 miles · Nov 6, 2009
Service Brakes, Hydraulic
I HAVE HAD MY 2008 HONDA ACCORD EXL FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR. ABOUT ONE MONTH AGO, I HEARD MY CAR MAKING SOME SCREECHING NOISE. IT WAS NOT PERSISTENT BUT IT WAS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME FEEL EMBARRASSED TO DRIVE MY CAR. ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO THE SCREECHING NOISE BECAME SUCH A PROBLEM B/C 95% OF THE TIME I'M DRIVING BOTH REAR BRAKES …
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I HAVE HAD MY 2008 HONDA ACCORD EXL FOR A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR. ABOUT ONE MONTH AGO, I HEARD MY CAR MAKING SOME SCREECHING NOISE. IT WAS NOT PERSISTENT BUT IT WAS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME FEEL EMBARRASSED TO DRIVE MY CAR. ABOUT 2 WEEKS AGO THE SCREECHING NOISE BECAME SUCH A PROBLEM B/C 95% OF THE TIME I'M DRIVING BOTH REAR BRAKES SEEM TO BE MAKING THE NOISE. IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE IS RUNNING A METAL WIRE ALONG A METAL SHEET AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE BRAKES SLIP EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE. I RECENTLY GOOGLED THE ISSUE AND ITS TO BE A FAIRLY COMMON THING. I JUST CALLED AND MADE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE DEALERSHIP TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT. I ALSO TOLD THEM ABOUT THE THOUSANDS OF COMPLAINTS I HAVE READ ONLINE AND TOLD THEM THAT I WILL NOT PAY FOR ANY CHARGES THAT OCCUR. THEY ACKNOWLEDGED A BRAKE PROBLEM FOR ALL 2008/2009 HONDA ACCORD AND SAID THEY SHOULD BE RESOLVING THE ISSUE 12/22/09 AND THAT I SHOULD HOLD OFF UNTIL THEN AND THAT IT IS NOT A SAFETY ISSUE. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10291279
Official recalls
8Jun 27, 2019
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2009-2014 Acura TSX, 2011-2014 TSX Sport Wagon, 2010-2013 ZDX, 2008-2012 Honda Accord, 2010-2011 Accord Crosstour, 2006-2011 Civic and Civic Hybrid, 2008-2010 Civic GX NGV, 2012-2015 Crosstour, 2007-2011 CR-V, 2009-2013 Fit, 2014 Fit EV, 2010-2014 Insight, and 2009-2015 Pilot vehicles. The vehicles are equipped with passenger frontal air bag inflators assembled as a recall remedy part or replacement service part, that may explode due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to high absolute humidity, temperature and temperature cycling.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: An inflator explosion may result in sharp metal fragments striking the driver or other occupants resulting in serious injury or death.
Remedy: Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the passenger frontal air bag inflator, free of charge. The recall began August 12, 2019. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are F5F and Q5E.
May 16, 2019
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2009-2014 Acura TSX, 2011-2013 TSX Sport Wagon, and 2010-2012 ZDX and 2008-2012 Honda Accord, 2010-2011 Accord Crosstour, 2006-2011 Civic, Civic Hybrid and Civic NGV, 2012-2014 Crosstour, 2007-2011 CR-V, 2009-2013 Fit, 2010-2013 Insight, and 2009-2015 Pilot vehicles. The front passenger air bag inflator may have been installed incorrectly during replacement.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: An incorrectly installed air bag inflator may not properly deploy the passenger frontal air bag in the event of a crash, increasing the risk of injury.
Remedy: Honda will notify owners, and dealers will inspect the inflator installation and, if necessary, replace the passenger frontal air bag module assembly, free of charge. The recall began July 5, 2019. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are M4O, P4R, T4Q, and W4P.
Apr 26, 2018
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2003-2012 Honda Accord and Pilot, 2010 Accord Crosstour, 2001-2011 Civic, 2002-2011 CR-V, 2003-2004, 2006-2008 and 2011 Element, 2007 and 2009-2013 Fit, 2010-2012 Insight, 2002-2004 Odyssey, and 2012 Ridgeline vehicles. The front passenger air bag may have been installed incorrectly during replacement.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: An incorrectly installed air bag may deploy improperly in the event of a crash, increasing the risk of injury.
Remedy: Honda will notify owners, and dealers will inspect and, if necessary, replace the passenger frontal air bag module assembly, free of charge. The recall began June 22, 2018. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are K1P, and M1O.
Aug 31, 2017
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2008-2012 Accord, 2010-2012 Accord Crosstour, 2006-2011 Civic, 2007-2011 CR-V, 2009-2012 Fit and Pilot, 2010-2012 Insight, and 2009-2012 Acura TSX vehicles that received replacement passenger frontal air bag inflators. One dealership may have incorrectly installed the replacement air bag inflators.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: In the event of a crash, an incorrectly installed passenger frontal air bag inflator may deploy the air bag improperly, increasing the risk of injury.
Remedy: Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the passenger frontal air bag module assembly, free of charge. The recall began October 30, 2017. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are O07, Y0A, N06, G05, M04, Y01, and O09.
Jan 10, 2017
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2009-2012 Acura TSX, 2011-2012 Acura TSX Wagon, 2010-2012 Acura ZDX, 2008-2012 Honda Accord, 2010-2012 Honda Accord Crosstour and Honda Insight, 2009-2012 Honda Fit, 2009-2012 Pilot, 2007-2011 Honda CR-V, 2012 Honda FCX Clarity and 2006-2011 Honda Civic, Civic Hybrid, Civic NGV vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan), and the U.S. Virgin Islands, or "Zone A." Additionally, if not included in "Zone A" above, Honda is recalling certain 2009 Acura TSX, Honda Fit and Pilot, 2008-2009 Honda Accord, 2006-2009 Civic, Civic Hybrid and Civic NGV, and 2007-2009 Honda CR-V vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, District of Columbia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, and West Virginia, or "Zone B." Additionally, if not included in "Zone B" above, Honda is recalling certain 2008 Honda Accord, 2006-2008 Honda Civic, Civic Hybrid and Civic NGV and 2007-2008 Honda CR-V vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Idaho, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. These vehicles are equipped with certain air bag inflators assembled as part of the passenger frontal air bag modules used as original equipment or replacement equipment. In the event of a crash necessitating deployment of the front air bags, these inflators may rupture due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to absolute humidity and temperature cycling.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: An inflator rupture may result in metal fragments striking the vehicle occupants resulting in serious injury or death.
Remedy: Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the front passenger side air bag inflator, free of charge. The manufacturer has mailed an interim notification, and will send a second notification when parts are available. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are KE1 and KE2.
May 24, 2016
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain model year 2009-2011 Acura TSX, 2011 TSX Wagon, 2010-2011 Acura ZDX, 2008-2011 Honda Accord, 2010-2011 Accord Crosstour, 2006-2011 Civic, Civic Hybrid, and Civic GX, 2007-2011 CR-V, 2010-2011 FCX Clarity and Insight, and 2009-2011 Fit, and Pilot vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan), and the U.S. Virgin Islands, or "Zone A." Additionally, unless already included in "Zone A" above, Honda is recalling certain model year 2008 Honda Accord, 2006-2008 Civic, Civic Hybrid and Civic GX, and 2007-2008 CR-V vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, and West Virginia, or "Zone B." Vehicles not originally sold or ever registered in either Zones A or B are not subject to this safety recall. These vehicles are equipped with certain air bag inflators assembled as part of the passenger frontal air bag modules, and used as original equipment or replacement equipment. In the event of a crash necessitating deployment of the front air bags, these inflators may rupture due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to absolute humidity and temperature cycling.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: An inflator rupture may result in metal fragments striking the vehicle occupants resulting in serious injury or death.
Remedy: Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the inflator, free of charge. The recall began March 2017. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall is KA4, KA5, KA6, and KA7.
Feb 2, 2016
American Honda Motor Company, Inc. (Honda) is recalling certain model year 2008-2010 Accord vehicles. In the affected vehicles, the air bag control units may corrode and fail.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: If the air bag control unit fails, the air bags may not deploy in the event of a crash, increasing the risk of occupant injury.
Remedy: Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the air bag control units, free of charge. Parts are expected to be available in Fall 2016. Interim notifications have been mailed to owners on March 15, 2016, and a second notice will be mailed when remedy parts are available. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's number for this recall is JW9. Note: This recall supersedes Recall 15V665.
Aug 4, 2011
HONDA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2005-2010 ACCORD, 2007-2010 CR-V, AND 2005-2008 ELEMENT PASSENGER CARS MANUFACTURED FROM JULY 1, 2004, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 3, 2010. THE OUTER RACE OF THE SECONDARY SHAFT BEARING MAY BE BROKEN DURING CERTAIN DRIVING STYLES. A BROKEN OUTER RACE MAY CAUSE ABNORMAL NOISE, THE MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LIGHT TO TURN ON, AND ALLOW CONTACT BETWEEN THE TRANSMISSION IDLE GEAR AND AN ELECTRONIC SENSOR HOUSING WITHIN THE TRANSMISSION.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: THIS COULD RESULT IN A SHORT CIRCUIT CAUSING THE ENGINE TO STALL. ADDITIONALLY, BROKEN PIECES OF THE OUTER RACE OR BALL BEARING FROM THE SECONDARY SHAFT MAY BECOME LODGED IN THE PARKING PAWL RESULTING IN THE VEHICLE ROLLING AFTER THE DRIVER HAS PLACED THE GEAR SELECTOR IN THE PARK POSITION. ENGINE STALL AND UNEXPECTED VEHICLE MOVEMENT INCREASES THE RISK OF A CRASH OR PERSONAL INJURY TO PERSONS WITHIN THE PATH OF A ROLLING VEHICLE.
Remedy: HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND DEALERS WILL UPDATE THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE SOFTWARE FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 27, 2011. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AUTOMOBILE CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-999-1009.
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NHTSA investigations
3PE15029 · Srs Control Module Failure
Opened Aug 18, 2015 · Closed Jun 17, 2016
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Air Bags; Air Bags:frontal:sensor/control MODULE-INACTIVE
As discussed further below, and by letter dated January 22, 2016, Honda is recalling certain model year (MY) 2008 through 2010 Honda Accords to replace a defective air bag/SRS control module that can result in the Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) becoming fully inoperative (disabled).See NHTSA Safety Recall 16V056 at SaferCar.gov for further details.Honda's response to an agency Information Request letter indicated that the SRS module was manufactured by tier-one supplier Continental and contained a power supply ASIC manufactured by tier-two supplier Atmel. The original ASIC was susceptible to a moisture ingress issue due to inadequate ASIC passivation layer.Water ingress could result in moisture reaching the Titanium Nitride (TiN) layer in the ASIC causing corrosion and breakage of electrical circuits.The damaged ASIC then causes failures of the SRS module resulting in 1) incomplete boot-up when power is supplied to the module or 2) the inability of the module to establish either internal or external bus communications.In either case the air bag readiness indicator light on the instrument cluster is illuminated and all air bags and seat belt pretensioners are disabled.During the investigation, ODI obtained the SRS module from a complainant crash vehicle where the air bags did not deploy despite a significant frontal impact.An inspection of the module was performed at a Continental facility.The inspection confirmed that the module had the ASIC fault thus preventing the SRS module from completing the boot-up process.An attempt was made to recover stored EDR data from the module however none was present; this outcome is consistent with an Atmel ASIC failure.A second SRS module alleged to have the ASIC problem was inspected during the same visit.This second module was unable to communicate with the test equipment.The ASIC was replaced on this module and full function was restored to the module confirming the ASIC as the cause of the SRS module fault.According to Honda, tier-two Atmel implemented three different corrective actions in early 2008.Implementation of the corrective actions into module production by tier-one Continental, and into vehicle production by Honda resulted in three distinct vehicle populations.The first population consists of certain non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords with modules that did not contain any of the corrective actions.This population of 341,444 vehicles exhibited a significant level of module failure in service and is thus being recalled.The second population of 382,693 non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords contained two of the three corrective actions.This population exhibited a significantly lower level of SRS module failure, compared to the first population, but a marginally higher level compared to the third population.Honda is conducting a 15 year unlimited mileage extended warranty program for this second population.Under the program Honda will replace the SRS module free of charge for vehicles that experience an SRS module malfunction due to ASIC failure.Owners eligible for the extended warranty will be notified by Honda in writing.The third population consists of vehicles containing all three corrective actions, this population exhibits a normal level of SRS module failure.Based on the safety recall and extended warranty this investigation is closed.The VOQ reports cited above can be reviewed at SaferCar.gov under the following identification numbers: 10871612, 10869953, 10810554, 10788238, 10781994, 10778712, 10765025, 10761583, 10759019, 10758622, 10747850, 10735806, 10734761, 10733519, 10715339, 10703521, 10676517, 1065
Additional source detail variants (4)
Air Bags:frontal:sensor/control MODULE-INACTIVE
As discussed further below, and by letter dated January 22, 2016, Honda is recalling certain model year (MY) 2008 through 2010 Honda Accords to replace a defective air bag/SRS control module that can result in the Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) becoming fully inoperative (disabled).See NHTSA Safety Recall 16V056 at SaferCar.gov for further details.Honda's response to an agency Information Request letter indicated that the SRS module was manufactured by tier-one supplier Continental and contained a power supply ASIC manufactured by tier-two supplier Atmel. The original ASIC was susceptible to a moisture ingress issue due to inadequate ASIC passivation layer.Water ingress could result in moisture reaching the Titanium Nitride (TiN) layer in the ASIC causing corrosion and breakage of electrical circuits.The damaged ASIC then causes failures of the SRS module resulting in 1) incomplete boot-up when power is supplied to the module or 2) the inability of the module to establish either internal or external bus communications.In either case the air bag readiness indicator light on the instrument cluster is illuminated and all air bags and seat belt pretensioners are disabled.During the investigation, ODI obtained the SRS module from a complainant crash vehicle where the air bags did not deploy despite a significant frontal impact.An inspection of the module was performed at a Continental facility.The inspection confirmed that the module had the ASIC fault thus preventing the SRS module from completing the boot-up process.An attempt was made to recover stored EDR data from the module however none was present; this outcome is consistent with an Atmel ASIC failure.A second SRS module alleged to have the ASIC problem was inspected during the same visit.This second module was unable to communicate with the test equipment.The ASIC was replaced on this module and full function was restored to the module confirming the ASIC as the cause of the SRS module fault.According to Honda, tier-two Atmel implemented three different corrective actions in early 2008.Implementation of the corrective actions into module production by tier-one Continental, and into vehicle production by Honda resulted in three distinct vehicle populations.The first population consists of certain non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords with modules that did not contain any of the corrective actions.This population of 341,444 vehicles exhibited a significant level of module failure in service and is thus being recalled.The second population of 382,693 non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords contained two of the three corrective actions.This population exhibited a significantly lower level of SRS module failure, compared to the first population, but a marginally higher level compared to the third population.Honda is conducting a 15 year unlimited mileage extended warranty program for this second population.Under the program Honda will replace the SRS module free of charge for vehicles that experience an SRS module malfunction due to ASIC failure.Owners eligible for the extended warranty will be notified by Honda in writing.The third population consists of vehicles containing all three corrective actions, this population exhibits a normal level of SRS module failure.Based on the safety recall and extended warranty this investigation is closed.The VOQ reports cited above can be reviewed at SaferCar.gov under the following identification numbers: 10871612, 10869953, 10810554, 10788238, 10781994, 10778712, 10765025, 10761583, 10759019, 10758622, 10747850, 10735806, 10734761, 10733519, 10715339, 10703521, 10676517, 1065
Air Bags:frontal:sensor/control MODULE-INACTIVE
As discussed further below, and by letter dated January 22, 2016, Honda is recalling certain model year (MY) 2008 through 2010 Honda Accords to replace a defective air bag/SRS control module that can result in the Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) becoming fully inoperative (disabled).See NHTSA Safety Recall 16V056 at SaferCar.gov for further details.Honda's response to an agency Information Request letter indicated that the SRS module was manufactured by tier-one supplier Continental and contained a power supply ASIC manufactured by tier-two supplier Atmel. The original ASIC was susceptible to a moisture ingress issue due to inadequate ASIC passivation layer.Water ingress could result in moisture reaching the Titanium Nitride (TiN) layer in the ASIC causing corrosion and breakage of electrical circuits.The damaged ASIC then causes failures of the SRS module resulting in 1) incomplete boot-up when power is supplied to the module or 2) the inability of the module to establish either internal or external bus communications.In either case the air bag readiness indicator light on the instrument cluster is illuminated and all air bags and seat belt pretensioners are disabled.During the investigation, ODI obtained the SRS module from a complainant crash vehicle where the air bags did not deploy despite a significant frontal impact.An inspection of the module was performed at a Continental facility.The inspection confirmed that the module had the ASIC fault thus preventing the SRS module from completing the boot-up process.An attempt was made to recover stored EDR data from the module however none was present; this outcome is consistent with an Atmel ASIC failure.A second SRS module alleged to have the ASIC problem was inspected during the same visit.This second module was unable to communicate with the test equipment.The ASIC was replaced on this module and full function was restored to the module confirming the ASIC as the cause of the SRS module fault.According to Honda, tier-two Atmel implemented three different corrective actions in early 2008.Implementation of the corrective actions into module production by tier-one Continental, and into vehicle production by Honda resulted in three distinct vehicle populations.The first population consists of certain non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords with modules that did not contain any of the corrective actions.This population of 341,444 vehicles exhibited a significant level of module failure in service and is thus being recalled.The second population of 382,693 non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords contained two of the three corrective actions.This population exhibited a significantly lower level of SRS module failure, compared to the first population, but a marginally higher level compared to the third population.Honda is conducting a 15 year unlimited mileage extended warranty program for this second population.Under the program Honda will replace the SRS module free of charge for vehicles that experience an SRS module malfunction due to ASIC failure.Owners eligible for the extended warranty will be notified by Honda in writing.The third population consists of vehicles containing all three corrective actions, this population exhibits a normal level of SRS module failure.Based on the safety recall and extended warranty this investigation is closed.The VOQ reports cited above can be reviewed at SaferCar.gov under the following identification numbers: 10871612, 10869953, 10810554, 10788238, 10781994, 10778712, 10765025, 10761583, 10759019, 10758622, 10747850, 10735806, 10734761, 10733519, 10715339, 10703521, 10676517, 1065
Air Bags
As discussed further below, and by letter dated January 22, 2016, Honda is recalling certain model year (MY) 2008 through 2010 Honda Accords to replace a defective air bag/SRS control module that can result in the Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) becoming fully inoperative (disabled).See NHTSA Safety Recall 16V056 at SaferCar.gov for further details.Honda's response to an agency Information Request letter indicated that the SRS module was manufactured by tier-one supplier Continental and contained a power supply ASIC manufactured by tier-two supplier Atmel. The original ASIC was susceptible to a moisture ingress issue due to inadequate ASIC passivation layer.Water ingress could result in moisture reaching the Titanium Nitride (TiN) layer in the ASIC causing corrosion and breakage of electrical circuits.The damaged ASIC then causes failures of the SRS module resulting in 1) incomplete boot-up when power is supplied to the module or 2) the inability of the module to establish either internal or external bus communications.In either case the air bag readiness indicator light on the instrument cluster is illuminated and all air bags and seat belt pretensioners are disabled.During the investigation, ODI obtained the SRS module from a complainant crash vehicle where the air bags did not deploy despite a significant frontal impact.An inspection of the module was performed at a Continental facility.The inspection confirmed that the module had the ASIC fault thus preventing the SRS module from completing the boot-up process.An attempt was made to recover stored EDR data from the module however none was present; this outcome is consistent with an Atmel ASIC failure.A second SRS module alleged to have the ASIC problem was inspected during the same visit.This second module was unable to communicate with the test equipment.The ASIC was replaced on this module and full function was restored to the module confirming the ASIC as the cause of the SRS module fault.According to Honda, tier-two Atmel implemented three different corrective actions in early 2008.Implementation of the corrective actions into module production by tier-one Continental, and into vehicle production by Honda resulted in three distinct vehicle populations.The first population consists of certain non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords with modules that did not contain any of the corrective actions.This population of 341,444 vehicles exhibited a significant level of module failure in service and is thus being recalled.The second population of 382,693 non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords contained two of the three corrective actions.This population exhibited a significantly lower level of SRS module failure, compared to the first population, but a marginally higher level compared to the third population.Honda is conducting a 15 year unlimited mileage extended warranty program for this second population.Under the program Honda will replace the SRS module free of charge for vehicles that experience an SRS module malfunction due to ASIC failure.Owners eligible for the extended warranty will be notified by Honda in writing.The third population consists of vehicles containing all three corrective actions, this population exhibits a normal level of SRS module failure.Based on the safety recall and extended warranty this investigation is closed.The VOQ reports cited above can be reviewed at SaferCar.gov under the following identification numbers: 10871612, 10869953, 10810554, 10788238, 10781994, 10778712, 10765025, 10761583, 10759019, 10758622, 10747850, 10735806, 10734761, 10733519, 10715339, 10703521, 10676517, 1065
Air Bags
As discussed further below, and by letter dated January 22, 2016, Honda is recalling certain model year (MY) 2008 through 2010 Honda Accords to replace a defective air bag/SRS control module that can result in the Supplemental Restraint System (SRS) becoming fully inoperative (disabled).See NHTSA Safety Recall 16V056 at SaferCar.gov for further details.Honda's response to an agency Information Request letter indicated that the SRS module was manufactured by tier-one supplier Continental and contained a power supply ASIC manufactured by tier-two supplier Atmel. The original ASIC was susceptible to a moisture ingress issue due to inadequate ASIC passivation layer.Water ingress could result in moisture reaching the Titanium Nitride (TiN) layer in the ASIC causing corrosion and breakage of electrical circuits.The damaged ASIC then causes failures of the SRS module resulting in 1) incomplete boot-up when power is supplied to the module or 2) the inability of the module to establish either internal or external bus communications.In either case the air bag readiness indicator light on the instrument cluster is illuminated and all air bags and seat belt pretensioners are disabled.During the investigation, ODI obtained the SRS module from a complainant crash vehicle where the air bags did not deploy despite a significant frontal impact.An inspection of the module was performed at a Continental facility.The inspection confirmed that the module had the ASIC fault thus preventing the SRS module from completing the boot-up process.An attempt was made to recover stored EDR data from the module however none was present; this outcome is consistent with an Atmel ASIC failure.A second SRS module alleged to have the ASIC problem was inspected during the same visit.This second module was unable to communicate with the test equipment.The ASIC was replaced on this module and full function was restored to the module confirming the ASIC as the cause of the SRS module fault.According to Honda, tier-two Atmel implemented three different corrective actions in early 2008.Implementation of the corrective actions into module production by tier-one Continental, and into vehicle production by Honda resulted in three distinct vehicle populations.The first population consists of certain non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords with modules that did not contain any of the corrective actions.This population of 341,444 vehicles exhibited a significant level of module failure in service and is thus being recalled.The second population of 382,693 non-consecutively built MY 2008 to 2010 Accords contained two of the three corrective actions.This population exhibited a significantly lower level of SRS module failure, compared to the first population, but a marginally higher level compared to the third population.Honda is conducting a 15 year unlimited mileage extended warranty program for this second population.Under the program Honda will replace the SRS module free of charge for vehicles that experience an SRS module malfunction due to ASIC failure.Owners eligible for the extended warranty will be notified by Honda in writing.The third population consists of vehicles containing all three corrective actions, this population exhibits a normal level of SRS module failure.Based on the safety recall and extended warranty this investigation is closed.The VOQ reports cited above can be reviewed at SaferCar.gov under the following identification numbers: 10871612, 10869953, 10810554, 10788238, 10781994, 10778712, 10765025, 10761583, 10759019, 10758622, 10747850, 10735806, 10734761, 10733519, 10715339, 10703521, 10676517, 1065
EA14004 · Inadvertent Side Air Bag Deployment
Opened Jul 29, 2014 · Closed Jan 4, 2016
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Air Bags; Air Bags:side/window
Honda is conducting a safety recall of approximately 303,900 model year 2008-2009 Honda Accord sedans to address inadvertent deployment of the side air bags (see NHTSA recall 15V-665 for more information).It should be noted that almost all of the recalled vehicles are the 2008 Accords (built from start of model year 2008 production to June 25, 2008) as only about 500 early-built 2009 Accords (built from June 24 to June 30, 2008) are included in the recall.The Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) has identified 351 reported incidents of inadvertent side air bag deployments in the 2008 Accord sedans.This investigation found there is risk of serious injury to vehicle occupants or users who are positioned in the direct path of a deploying side curtain air bag.Based on the recall action taken by Honda, this Engineering Analysis is closed.Additional information on this closing resume and the investigation are in the EA14-004 public file available on-line at SaferCar.gov.The ODI reports cited above can be reviewed online at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification numbers:10232206 10235294 10255323 10268158 10268191 10269514 10276755 10279446 10280675 10308292 10319979 10342520 10353536 10408925 10436506 10447151 10458732 10468196 10468200 10493407 10494971 10522291 10524389 10543092 10544473 10545258 10547591 10554073 10563629 10565311 10565423 10576518 10579241 10584501 10585442 10606937 10608973 10627302 10638541 10640968 10650861 10654858 10679518 10680063 10683967 10712981 10717410 10717777 10761860
Additional source detail variants (2)
Air Bags
Honda is conducting a safety recall of approximately 303,900 model year 2008-2009 Honda Accord sedans to address inadvertent deployment of the side air bags (see NHTSA recall 15V-665 for more information).It should be noted that almost all of the recalled vehicles are the 2008 Accords (built from start of model year 2008 production to June 25, 2008) as only about 500 early-built 2009 Accords (built from June 24 to June 30, 2008) are included in the recall.The Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) has identified 351 reported incidents of inadvertent side air bag deployments in the 2008 Accord sedans.This investigation found there is risk of serious injury to vehicle occupants or users who are positioned in the direct path of a deploying side curtain air bag.Based on the recall action taken by Honda, this Engineering Analysis is closed.Additional information on this closing resume and the investigation are in the EA14-004 public file available on-line at SaferCar.gov.The ODI reports cited above can be reviewed online at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification numbers:10232206 10235294 10255323 10268158 10268191 10269514 10276755 10279446 10280675 10308292 10319979 10342520 10353536 10408925 10436506 10447151 10458732 10468196 10468200 10493407 10494971 10522291 10524389 10543092 10544473 10545258 10547591 10554073 10563629 10565311 10565423 10576518 10579241 10584501 10585442 10606937 10608973 10627302 10638541 10640968 10650861 10654858 10679518 10680063 10683967 10712981 10717410 10717777 10761860
Air Bags:side/window
Honda is conducting a safety recall of approximately 303,900 model year 2008-2009 Honda Accord sedans to address inadvertent deployment of the side air bags (see NHTSA recall 15V-665 for more information).It should be noted that almost all of the recalled vehicles are the 2008 Accords (built from start of model year 2008 production to June 25, 2008) as only about 500 early-built 2009 Accords (built from June 24 to June 30, 2008) are included in the recall.The Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) has identified 351 reported incidents of inadvertent side air bag deployments in the 2008 Accord sedans.This investigation found there is risk of serious injury to vehicle occupants or users who are positioned in the direct path of a deploying side curtain air bag.Based on the recall action taken by Honda, this Engineering Analysis is closed.Additional information on this closing resume and the investigation are in the EA14-004 public file available on-line at SaferCar.gov.The ODI reports cited above can be reviewed online at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification numbers:10232206 10235294 10255323 10268158 10268191 10269514 10276755 10279446 10280675 10308292 10319979 10342520 10353536 10408925 10436506 10447151 10458732 10468196 10468200 10493407 10494971 10522291 10524389 10543092 10544473 10545258 10547591 10554073 10563629 10565311 10565423 10576518 10579241 10584501 10585442 10606937 10608973 10627302 10638541 10640968 10650861 10654858 10679518 10680063 10683967 10712981 10717410 10717777 10761860
PE14004 · Inadvertent Side Air Bag Deployment
Opened Jan 31, 2014 · Closed Jul 29, 2014
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Air Bags; Air Bags:side/window
ODI has identified 293 incidents of alleged inadvertent deployment of the side air bags in model year (MY) 2008 Honda Accord 4-door vehicles.This total represents all incidents reported to both ODI and Honda including those from Honda's warranty system (note: the total shown above eliminates all duplicative reports to ODI and Honda).This investigation has revealed that when the driver or front passenger door is shut, the driver-side or passenger-side side curtain air bag can deploy, and in some cases, the side seat-mounted torso air bag can deploy as well.Fourteen people allegedly suffered injuries caused by the deploying air bags.In June 2008, near the end of MY 2008 Accord 4-door production, Honda changed the crash parameter for door closing force, which is embedded in the electronic control unit's software code, in order to reduce the incidents of the inadvertent side air bag deployments.More specifically, the software design change was made on June 5, 2008 for the Accords built in the U.S. and on June 30, 2008 for those built in Japan.ODI found the number of the inadvertent deployment incidents declined significantly for the vehicles with the new crash parameter setting, i.e., the late-built MY 2008 vehicles and all MY 2009 vehicles.Honda reported the Accord 2-door model utilizes a different software/crash parameter than the subject 4-door model.This Preliminary Evaluation has been upgraded to an Engineering Analysis (EA14-004) to determine, among other things, the risk of air bag deployment injuries to vehicle users in vulnerable positions.The ODI reports cited above can be reviewed online at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification numbers: 10232206, 10235294, 10255323, 10268158, 10268191, 10269514, 10276755, 10279446, 10280675, 10308292, 10319979, 10342520, 10353536, 10408925, 10436506, 10447151, 10458732, 10468196, 10468200, 10493407, 10494971, 10522291, 10524389, 10543092, 10544473, 10545258, 10547591, 10554073, 10563629, 10565311, 10565423, 10576518, 10579241, 10584501, 10585442, 10606937, 10608973.
Additional source detail variants (2)
Air Bags
ODI has identified 293 incidents of alleged inadvertent deployment of the side air bags in model year (MY) 2008 Honda Accord 4-door vehicles.This total represents all incidents reported to both ODI and Honda including those from Honda's warranty system (note: the total shown above eliminates all duplicative reports to ODI and Honda).This investigation has revealed that when the driver or front passenger door is shut, the driver-side or passenger-side side curtain air bag can deploy, and in some cases, the side seat-mounted torso air bag can deploy as well.Fourteen people allegedly suffered injuries caused by the deploying air bags.In June 2008, near the end of MY 2008 Accord 4-door production, Honda changed the crash parameter for door closing force, which is embedded in the electronic control unit's software code, in order to reduce the incidents of the inadvertent side air bag deployments.More specifically, the software design change was made on June 5, 2008 for the Accords built in the U.S. and on June 30, 2008 for those built in Japan.ODI found the number of the inadvertent deployment incidents declined significantly for the vehicles with the new crash parameter setting, i.e., the late-built MY 2008 vehicles and all MY 2009 vehicles.Honda reported the Accord 2-door model utilizes a different software/crash parameter than the subject 4-door model.This Preliminary Evaluation has been upgraded to an Engineering Analysis (EA14-004) to determine, among other things, the risk of air bag deployment injuries to vehicle users in vulnerable positions.The ODI reports cited above can be reviewed online at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification numbers: 10232206, 10235294, 10255323, 10268158, 10268191, 10269514, 10276755, 10279446, 10280675, 10308292, 10319979, 10342520, 10353536, 10408925, 10436506, 10447151, 10458732, 10468196, 10468200, 10493407, 10494971, 10522291, 10524389, 10543092, 10544473, 10545258, 10547591, 10554073, 10563629, 10565311, 10565423, 10576518, 10579241, 10584501, 10585442, 10606937, 10608973.
Air Bags:side/window
ODI has identified 293 incidents of alleged inadvertent deployment of the side air bags in model year (MY) 2008 Honda Accord 4-door vehicles.This total represents all incidents reported to both ODI and Honda including those from Honda's warranty system (note: the total shown above eliminates all duplicative reports to ODI and Honda).This investigation has revealed that when the driver or front passenger door is shut, the driver-side or passenger-side side curtain air bag can deploy, and in some cases, the side seat-mounted torso air bag can deploy as well.Fourteen people allegedly suffered injuries caused by the deploying air bags.In June 2008, near the end of MY 2008 Accord 4-door production, Honda changed the crash parameter for door closing force, which is embedded in the electronic control unit's software code, in order to reduce the incidents of the inadvertent side air bag deployments.More specifically, the software design change was made on June 5, 2008 for the Accords built in the U.S. and on June 30, 2008 for those built in Japan.ODI found the number of the inadvertent deployment incidents declined significantly for the vehicles with the new crash parameter setting, i.e., the late-built MY 2008 vehicles and all MY 2009 vehicles.Honda reported the Accord 2-door model utilizes a different software/crash parameter than the subject 4-door model.This Preliminary Evaluation has been upgraded to an Engineering Analysis (EA14-004) to determine, among other things, the risk of air bag deployment injuries to vehicle users in vulnerable positions.The ODI reports cited above can be reviewed online at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification numbers: 10232206, 10235294, 10255323, 10268158, 10268191, 10269514, 10276755, 10279446, 10280675, 10308292, 10319979, 10342520, 10353536, 10408925, 10436506, 10447151, 10458732, 10468196, 10468200, 10493407, 10494971, 10522291, 10524389, 10543092, 10544473, 10545258, 10547591, 10554073, 10563629, 10565311, 10565423, 10576518, 10579241, 10584501, 10585442, 10606937, 10608973.
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