2004 Forest River Travel Trailer

WE OWN A 2004 CEDAR CREEK 5TH WHEEL. EXCESSIVE TIRE WEAR ON THE INSIDE TIRES INDICATED AN AXLE PROBLEM. ALSO KOBER REFUSED TO REPLACE THEIR BAD AXLES OR REPLACE THE WORN TIRES. FORTUNATELY, WE NOTICED THE FAILURE PRIOR TO BEING INVOLVED IN A BLOWOUT OR ACCIDENT. THE MANUFACTURER OF OUR 5TH WHEEL, CEDAR CREEK, TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO REPLACE THE AXLES AND TIRES. ALSO KOBER HAS KNOWN OF THIS ISSUE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW AND CONTINUES TO DENY THEIR FAULTY AXLES! JANESVILLE RV SERVICE DID THE REPAIRS TO REPLACE THE AXLES. THEY TOOK PICTURES OF THE AXLES AND TIRES AND SENT THEM TO STEVE HICKS AT CEDAR CREEK IN INDIANA. THIS IS AN AXLE PROBLEM THAT ALSO KOBER NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF AND A FORCED RECALL ISSUED IMMEDIATELY! ALSO KOBER CONTINUES TO DENY THAT THEY MANUFACTURED FAULTY AXLES. SOMEONE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE KILLED FOR A RECALL TO BE ORDERED. PLEASE NOTE, OUR 5TH WHEEL TRAILER IS NOT LISTED IN YOUR DROP DOWN LISTS IN THE NEXT SECTION! *TR

I PURCHASED A 2004 F37 SANDPIPER FIFTHWHEEL TOY HAULER WITH CARLISLE 235/85/16 LOAD RATING E TIRES. LESS THAN 2,000 MILES ON TRAILER AND NEVER OVER 350 MILE TRIPS. I HAVE HAD TWO TIRES GO FLAT IN TWO SEPARATE 70 MILE CAMPING TRIPS. I NOTIFIED THE DEALER I PURCHASED THE TRAILER FROM ABOUT THE INCIDENT AND THEY FORWARDED THE COMPLAINT TO THE MANUFATURE WHO STATED THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE WEIGHT OF THE TRAILER AND DID NOTHING ABOUT THE FLATS (FOREST RIVER). THE LAST TIME I TRAVELED, 10 MILES FROM MY HOUSE THE 3RD TIRE EXPLODED AT 50 MILES AND HOUR AND TORE THE SIDE APART AND WHEEL WELL OF OUR TRAILER UP WITHIN THE 100 YDRS OR SO IT TOOK ME TO STOP. THE TIRE TOTALLY SEPARATED AND THE TREAD CAME OFF OF THE BELTS. I TOOK THE TRAILER TO THE WEIGHT STATION AND WEIGHED IT TO SEE IF IT WAS OVERLOADED AND IT WAS NOT AT THE TIME. THE TIRES HAD 80 PSI FOR MAX WEIGHT CAPACITY AS PRINTED ON SIDE WALL. AFTER DEALING WITH FOREST RIVER I TOOK THE TRAILER OVER A CERTIFIED SCALE. THE GVWR ON THE TRAILER IS 13,700LBS AND THE GAWR IS 6,000 LBS PER AXEL, I WEIGHED THE TRAILER AT THE AXLE AND IT WEIGHED 10,700 LBS WITH 100 GALLONS OF WATER. NO 4 WHEELERS, NO FLUIDS IN HOLDING TANK AND ABOUT 7 GALLONS OF GAS IN 15 GALLON STATION, NO FOOD AND NO EQUIPMENT. I WAS SOLD A TOY HAULER THAT IS INCAPABLE OF CARRYING THE WATER (100 GAL), FUEL (15 GAL) AND TWO ATV'S AS ADVERTISED WITHOUT BEING OVER THE GVWR. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY CLOTHING, FOOD, EQUIPMENT OR WASTE IN ANY TANKS. WHAT GOOD IS A TOY HAULER THAT IS ADVERTISED TO HAVE THESE CAPACITIES BUT CANNOT CARRY ANYTHING IN THE TANKS OR YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE TOYS AT HOME. I HAVE A GARAGE AT HOME. I PURCHASED THE TRAILER TO HAUL A 735LB HARLEY AND ONE ATV AT ABOUT 1,300LBS IN AN EMAIL FROM FOREST RIVER I SHOULD BE ABLE TO CARRY MORE. I DIDN'T DISCONNECT THE TRAILER FROM THE TRUCK TO SEE THE TRUE GVWR BUT AT 10,700 LBS AT THE AXLE, IF I ADD MY MOTORCYCLE AND ATV I AM DONE!!! NO EQUIPMENT, NO FOOD, NO CLOTHING NOTHING!! *TR

WHILE MAKING A 200 MILE TRIP TO IOWA WE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD JUST BLOWN A TIRE. WHILE TAKING SHELTER INSIDE THE CAMPER FROM THE BUSY HWY WE DISCOVERED THAT THE AXEL WAS BROKEN AND THE WHOLE CAMPER COULD'VE TIPPED OVER WITH US(INCLUDING A 6 MONTH OLD INFANT.) THE TIRES ON THE PASSENGER SIDE HAD BEEN RUBBING CAUSING THE BLOW OUT. THE BLOW OUT ALSO DAMAGED A LOT OF THE UNDERSIDE. THIS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE DOUBLE AXEL IT NEEDS A TRIPLE AXEL TO BETTER WITHSTAND THE WEIGHT. THE NEXT DAY WE HAD IT WELDED AND NEW TIRES PUT ON AND PULLED IT A FEW MORE MILES TO A CAMP SITE AND LEFT IT THERE UNABLE TO TRUST IT TO GO ANY FURTHER. WE CONTACTED FOREST RIVER AND BASICALLY WE WERE TOLD THAT THEY DIDN'T CARE BUT DID EVENTUALLY COME AROUND AND GAVE US THE NUMBER OF THE CLOSEST FOREST RIVER DEALER TO GET IT. THE DEALER AND OURSELVES CALLED FOREST RIVER ON A DAILY BASIS ALMOST WITH NO PREVAIL. AFTER ABOUT 3 MONTHS OF CALLING THE COMPANY THAT DID THE WORK ON THE AXEL CALLED US AND OFFERED TO REINFORCE THE AXEL. WHEN THE ENTIRE AXEL NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. SO AFTER ALMOST 8 MONTHS IT IS STILL SITTING AT THE DEALERSHIP IN IOWA GATHERING DUST WITH NOTHING BEING FIXED. *NM

WHILE TRAVELING 1200 MILES TIRES CONTINUOUSLY BLEW OUT. CONSUMER FOUND THAT THE FRAME CRACKED, AND THE AXLE WAS GOING SIDE WAYS. *AK THE CONSUMER FELT THAT THE SUSPENSION WAS TO LIGHT, WEARING OUT THE SPRING HANGERS, FLATTENING THE SPRINGS, ALLOWING THE FRAME TO CARRY THE LOAD ON JUST THE TIRES WHICH WERE UNDERRATED. ON ONE OCCASION THE TIRE BLEWOUT DAMAGING WATER LINES UNDER THE TRAILER. ALL THIS IN UNDER 5000 MILES ON THE TRAILER (FOREST RIVER F37SP FIFTH WHEEL 2004). *BF *NM *NM