2016 Ford Expedition

MASTER CYLINDER AND BOOSTER TOTAL FAILURE. THANKFULLY THIS HAPPENED IN MY DRIVEWAY BEFORE HEADING OUT TO DINNER. BRAKE PEDAL TRAVELED ALL THE WAY TO FLOOR. MASTER CYLINDER RESERVOIR TOTALLY EMPTY. NO SIGNS OF ANY LEAKS OR FLUID ON THE GROUND. HAD IT TOWED TO FORD DEALERSHIP FOR REPAIR THINKING IT WOULD BE COVERED BY THE FORD CPO POWER TRAIN WARRANTY. SERVICE ADVISOR SAID THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN 15 YEARS HE HAS SEEN A MASTER CYLINDER FAIL ON AN EXPEDITION. I AGREE WITH OTHER OWNERS THIS SOUNDS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ISSUE FORD HAD WITH THE 2013-2014 YM F-150 PICK UP TRUCKS WITH THE 3.5L ECOBOOST ENGINE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 FORD EXPEDITION. WHILE DRIVING 40 MPH AND MAKING A TURN, THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED AND TRAVELED TO THE FLOORBOARD. THE CONTACT COULD NOT STOP THE VEHICLE. WHEN THE CONTACT PUMPED THE BRAKE PEDAL, THE VEHICLE STOPPED. ALSO, THE BRAKE FLUID WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC, BUT WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE CONTACT CALLED A FORD CUSTOMER SERVICE LINE AND WAS INFORMED THAT THE BRAKE CYLINDER WAS FRACTURED AND WAS LEAKING BRAKE FLUID. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE AND PROVIDED A CASE NUMBER. THE DEALER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 50,450. *BF *TR

I WAS DRVING 70 MPH ON HIGHWAY WHEN MY CAR STARTED TO LOOSE POWER AND A WRENCH SYMBOL APPEARED. I HAD NO POWER AND HAD TO ROLLED TO SIDE OF HIGHWAY. MESSAGE SAID TRANSMISSION TEMP 199 DEGREES. I HAD IT TOWED TO DEALER AND THEY ARE TELLING ME IT NEEDS A NEW THROTTLE BODY. I AM RETIRED AND ONLY DRIVE 2 TIMES A WEEK TO SEE GRAND CHILDREN, GO TO STORE OR DOCTORS AND I ONLY HAVE ABOUT 43,000 MILES. CAR HAS HAD ALL SCHRDULED MAINTANANCE. I SEE FORD HAD A RECALL FOR OTHER 2015 AND 2016 MODELS FOR THROTTLE BODY THAT EXPIRED IN 2017 BUT NOTHING FOR 2016 EXPEDITION. THIS IS GOING TO COST ME $450.00.

2/1/2019 I WAS DRIVING UP INTERSTATE I16 AT ABOUT 1PM. WHEN MY TRUCK STARTED STALLING. I IMMEDIATELY PULLED OVER TO THE EMERGENCY LANE. I THEN NOTICED SMOKE COMING OUT FROM UNDER THE ENGINE BAY. A COUPLE OF OTHER DRIVERS STOPPED TO TRY TO RENDER ASSISTANCE WITH SMALL FIRE EXTINGUISHERS; TO NO AVAIL. THE VEHICLE SOON BECAME FULLY ENGULFED IN FLAMES. BY THE TIME THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARRIVED, IT WAS A TOTAL LOSS. THE ONLY THING THAT WAS OUT OF THE ORDINARY WAS I RAN OVER A PLASTIC BAG BLOWING ACROSS THE INTERSTATE, LIKE A WALMART BAG. I HAD ASSUMED THAT THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER HAD ALREADY FILED THIS REPORT BUT THEY HAVE NOT.

THIS IS THE 3 RD TIME THE WRENCH TROUBLE LIGHT CAME ON. THE CAR LOSSES ALL POWER AND CAN ONLY IDLE ( ROUGHLY ). SHUT ENGINE OFF FOR A FEW MINUTES AND CAR STARTS UP AND GOES JUST FINE. BROUGHT IT BACK TO DEALER AND THEY SAID NO CODE IS STORED. NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. I WAS TOLD THAT THE PROBLEM IS USUALLY A THROTTLE BODY BUT SINCE NO CODE THEY CAN'T REPLACE IT EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A FORD EXTENDED WARRANTY. SO I JUST WENT AND BOUGHT A THROTTLE BODY FOR $ 225.00 AND INSTALLED IT MYSELF . LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS . DATE INSTALLED 1/22/2019

AROUND JULY 2018 MY EXPEDITION STARTED JUST RANDOMLY CUTTING OFF WHILE DRIVING WITH MY 2 CHILDREN IN THE CAR. AFTER GETTING THE CODES READ IT CAME UP AS THE THROTTLE BODY. WE HAD THE THROTTLE BODY REPLACED AND IT SEEMED TO HELP UNTIL ABOUT NOV 2018 THEN INSTEAD OF CUTTING OFF WHILE DRIVING THE CAR WOULD JERK HARD AND THEN YOU COULD NOT ACCELERATE OVER ABOUT 50MPH. MULTIPLE THINGS STARTED FLASHING ON THE DASH LIKE THE WRENCH, TRACTION CONTROL, HILL DESCENT, AND CHECK ENGINE. WE GOT ALL CODES READ AND THIS TIME IT WAS THE MAP SENSOR. WE HAVE REPLACED THE MAP SENSOR 2 TIMES WITH THE MOST RECENT IN JAN 2019. NOW THE EXPEDITION HAS STARTED TO AGAIN FLASH TRACTION CONTROL, HILL DESCENT, WRENCH, CHECK ENGINE AND THE CODES ARE READING MAP SENSOR AGAIN!! WE HAVE SPENT $200 ON EACH SENSOR WE HAVE REPLACED WHICH HAVE BEEN 3! WE HAVE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT AT THE END OF JAN TO FIND OUT AGAIN IF IT IS THE MAP SENSOR FOR A 3RD TIME OR IF IT IS SOME COMPUTER MALFUNCTION. WE HAVE NO MORE WARRANTY. FORD NEEDS TO LOOK INTO THIS PROBLEM AS I HAVE READ OTHER COMPLAINTS AND IT IS DEFINITELY NOT SAFE WHEN I'M DRIVING WITH MY KIDS AND THE CAR JERKS AND THEN YOU CAN NO LONGER ACCELERATE.

THIS ISSUE BEGAN ABOUT A MONTH AGO ON MY COMMUTE HOME FROM WORK, ALL ENGINE POWER WAS LOST AS I CAME OFF THE FREEWAY, THE COMPUTER ALERTED WITH A WRENCH ICON. I PULLED OVER AND SHUT THE CAR OFF, THEN AFTER A MINUTE RESTARTED. IT STARTED OK, I THEN USED AN ODB ADAPTER TO READ THE CODES, AND FOUND A SOFT (NOT PERMANENT) CODE P2112 (THROTTLE BODY STUCK CLOSED). I IMMEDIATELY CALL THE FORD DEALERSHIP TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT. WHEN THEY GOT THE CAR, THE CODE WAS NO LONGER IN THE COMPUTER. THEY RAN A DIAGNOSTIC, DECLARED THAT THEY DID NOT FIND ANYTHING, CHARGED ME $200, AND SENT ME HOME. SECOND OCCURRENCE WAS ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO, AGAIN DRIVING HOME FROM WORK, THEN WHILE COMING UP TO A TRAFFIC LIGHT THE SAME FAILURE HAPPENED AGAIN. AFTER RESTARTING, AND DRIVING HOME, I BEGAN RESEARCHING THE PROBLEM. TODAY, WHILE RETURNING HOME IN THE RAIN DURING A 5 MILE DRIVE IT FAILED 5 TIMES, EACH TIME I HAD TO PULL OVER, SHUT IT DOWN THEN RESTART. NOW I HAVE A PERMANENT CODE STORED IN THE COMPUTER (P2112) AND AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE DEALERSHIP TO FIX IT. I AM FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT THE THROTTLE BODY WILL BE REPLACED BY THE DEALERSHIP, BUT I AM OUT OF WARRANTY NOW, AND THEY WILL INDEED CHARGE ME. I HAVE FOUND NUMEROUS OTHER COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AND BELIEVE FORD SHOULD PROVIDE AN UPDATED PART THAT WILL RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. I SUSPECT THAT THIS WILL IN TIME CAUSE AN ACCIDENT, PERHAPS EVEN INJURY FOR SOMEONE. THIS IS DUE TO AUTO MANUFACTURERS REMOVING THE RATHER SIMPLE MECHANICAL LINKAGE FROM PEDAL TO THROTTLE AND TURNING THIS OVER TO A COMPUTER. TO BE SURE, IT IS THE COMPUTER THAT IS CREATING THE DANGEROUS CIRCUMSTANCES BY DISENGAGING ALL THROTTLE CONTROL WHEN THE THROTTLE BODY IS STICKING, FORCING THE DRIVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD (ASSUMING THERE IS A SAFE PLACE TO PULL OVER).

THE VEHICLE BLOWER SPEED CONTROLLER DOESN'T MATCH SETTING ON THE CLEMENT CONTROL. THE BLOWER WILL BLOW AT FULL SPEED OR NOT AT ALL. THIS HAPPENS NOT MATTER THE DISPOSITION TO THE VEHICLE. I TOOK THIS IN WHILE UNDER WARRANTY, NOTHING WAS FOUND. SECOND TIME OUT OF WARRANTY, STATED IT WAS A SOFTWARE UPDATE THAT WAS NEEDED. THIRD TIME THEY FOUND THE ISSUE WITH THE SPEED CONTROL AND THE WIRE HARNESS HAD MELTED (POTENTIAL FIRE ISSUES). NOW THAT THE ISSUE WAS FOUND, PALM COAST FORD REFUSES TO FIX IT UNDER WARRANTY. ON SEARCHING MOST COMMON ISSUES WITH THE FORD EXPEDITION I HAVE FOUND THAT THE BLOWER SPEED CONTROL IS AN ISSUE FOR MANY PEOPLE. FROM PERSONAL FINDING, IT IS A FIRE HAZARD, WHICH MAKES IT A SAFETY HAZARD. I HAD MENTIONED IT TO THE DEALERSHIP SINCE I BOUGHT THE VEHICLE. WHEN IT GOT MORE COMMON OF AN ISSUE AND MORE ANNOYING, I TOOK IT IN WHILE STILL UNDER WARRANTY TO HAVE IT DOCUMENTED.