2016 Ford Expedition

2016 MODEL, PURCHASED IN 2018. WHILE DRIVING TO WORK ON 7/26/19, DRIVING ON HIGHWAY, GOING 60 MPH THE "WRENCH" WARNING LIGHT CAME ON AND THE VEHICLE IMMEDIATELY DECELERATED TO 40 MPH, STARTING SPUTTERING AND SHAKING. I WAS ABLE TO LIMP THE VEHICLE TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND TURN OFF THE ENGINE. I WAITED A FEW MINUETS AND RESTARTED THE VEHICLE. INITIALLY IT SEEM TO RUN AS NORMAL WITH NO WARNING LIGHTS. I CONTINUED ON THE HIGHWAY FOR MAYBE 3/4 A MILE AND THE WRENCH LIGHT AND CHECK ENGINE LIGHT BOTH CAME ON AT THE SAME TIME THE VEHICLE SHUT DOWN. I WAS FORCED TO PULL OVER TO A NARROW SIDE OF THE BUSY HIGHWAY. I TURNED OFF THE ENGINE, PRAYING NO ONE WOULD HIT ME. I TURNED THE CAR BACK ON AND HEADED FOR THE LOCAL DEALERSHIP SERVICE CENTER. THE ONLY LIGHT THAT REMAINED ON WAS CHECK ENGINE LIGHT. ONCE AT THE DEALER THEY DIAGNOSED IT AS THE THROTTLE BODY WAS " OUT OF RANGE". THE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO REPLACE THE THROTTLE BODY WHICH WOULD COST ME $900. DESPITE THE CHARGES NEEDED FOR THE REPAIR, MY CONCERN IS SAFETY OF DRIVING THE VEHICLE IN WHICH THE VEHICLE WILL RAPIDLY DECELERATE ON A HIGHWAY OR INTERSTATE. OTHER DRIVERS MAY NOT RECOGNIZE THAT YOUR VEHICLE IS SLOWING DOWN AS YOU ARE NOT PRESSING THE BRAKE AND YOU ARE UNABLE TO ACCELERATE TO A SAFE AREA! I HAVE CALLED FORD AND ONLY BEEN TOLD THAT MY VEHICLE WAS OUT OF WARRANTY FOR ANY REPAIRS TO BE MADE BY FORD, AND THERE ARE NOT ANY RECALLS FOR THE VEHICLE. I HAVE SEEN OTHER LAWSUITS AND RECALLS FOR VEHICLES USING THIS THROTTLE BODY, THIS ISSUES NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND RECALLS SHOULD BE MADE BEFORE SOMEONE IS SERIOUSLY INJURED.

2016, PURCHASED 2018. WHILE DRIVING TO FLORIDA FROM INDIANA FOR VACATION 7/6/19, ON HIGHWAY DRIVING 80MPH, VEHICLE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AND VEHICLE IMMEDIATELY LOST POWER AND WE WERE ABLE TO LIMP TO LEFT SIDE OF HIGHWAY SPITTING AND SPUTTERING, UNABLE TO ACCELERATE AND CONTINUE. TURNED ENGINE OFF AND WAITED 5-10 MINUTES TO RESTART. VEHICLE RETURNED TO SOUNDING NORMAL. WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE ON TO FLORIDA FOR 7DAY TRIP. THEN DRIVING HOME TO INDIANA, WHILE HIGHWAY DRIVING AND ACCELERATING TO PASS A CAR, DASH WRENCH LIGHT CAME ON AND VEHICLE LOST ALL POWER AND WE WERE BARELY ABLE TO GET TO THE LEFT UNSAFE SMALL SIDE OF HIGHWAY, UP AGAINST A CONCRETE WALL...DURING HEAVY 3 LANES OF TRAFFIC. VEHICLE AGAIN SPIT AND SPUTTERED AND BARELY ABLE TO MOVE. WE WERE UNABLE TO GET VEHICLE SAFELY OFF OF HIGHWAY. A TOW TRUCK HAD TO BE CALLED TO TOW US TO THE NEXT EXIT TO A GAS STATION. VEHICLE TURNED BACK ON AND WRENCH LIGHT OFF BUT CHECK ENGINE LIGHT NOW FLASHING, WE CHOSE TO CONTINUE DRIVING THE REMAINING 5HRS HOME GOING 50-55MPH. RESEARCHED ISSUE ONLINE AND FOUND THIS TO BE A THROTTLE BODY ISSUE, COMMON WITH FORD VEHICLES. TOOK VEHICLE TO AUTOZONE FOR DIAGNOSTIC SCAN AND YES, THE ERROR CODE P2111 "THROTTLE BODY ACTUATOR CONTROL SYSTEM,STUCK OPEN" IS WHAT WAS READ. THIS APPEARS TO BE A SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS SAFETY CONCERN AND I AM AFRAID TO DRIVE THIS VEHICLE. THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH FORD. I HAVE ALREADY CALLED FORD AND A RECALL WAS NOT IDENTIFIED WITH MY VEHICLE, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A RECALL WITH OTHER FORDS IN THE PAST. THERE ARE CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS ALSO. I WILL LOG A COMPLAINT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICE AS WELL. I HAVE ALREADY PAID TO HAVE TO MANY OTHER REPAIRS DONE ON THIS VEHICLE BUT THIS ONE IS CERTAINLY A SAFETY CONCERN. LOOKS LIKE MORE MONEY WILL NEED TO BE POURED INTO THIS LEMON BY HAVING THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE BODY REPLACED. THANK YOU

MY VEHICLES BRAKES WENT OUT WHILE DRIVING. FORTUNATELY I WAS PULLING INTO MY DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS ON A HILL, AND ABLE TO COME TO A STOP AND APPLY THE EMERGENCY BRAKE. AFTER COMING TO A STOP I CHECKED THE BRAKE FLUID AND IT WAS EMPTY. THERE WERE NO SIGNS OF ANY LEAKS. I REFILLED THE BRAKE FLUID AND THE NEXT MORNING WAS EMPTY AGAIN. I CHECKED AGAIN TO FIND NO SIGN OF BRAKE FLUID LEAKS. I HAD TO HAVE MY VEHICLE TOWED TO GOSCH FORD TEMECULA FOR THEM TO LOOK INTO THE ISSUE.

I'M DRIVING AT NORMAL SPEED WHEN SUDDENLY MY MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LIGHTS UP AND NO ENGINE POWER. THE POWER STEERING, BRAKING, LIGHTING AND CLIMATE CONTROL SYSTEMS REMAIN FULLY FUNCTIONAL, HOWEVER THE VEHICLE NO LONGER REMAINS OPERATIONAL. FORD HAS A RECALL 16B32 AND CUSTOMER SATISFACTION PROGRAM IN OTHER FORD VEHICLES, BUT NOT MINE, BUT THE SAME EXACT THING IS HAPPENING. . $890 LATTER I AM HAVING MY ELECTRONIC THROTTLE BODY REPLACED WITH ONLY 52,000 MILES AND FORD HAS NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE PROBLEM SINCE THE EXPEDITION IS NOT PART OF THE CSP. APPARENTLY, IN A VARIETY OF FORD VEHICLES, THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE BODY INTERNAL MOTOR CONTACTS MAY DEVELOP CONTAMINATION RESULTING IN INCREASED ELECTRICAL RESISTANCE. IF THIS HAPPENS, WHICH IN MY CASE IT DID, THE MIL LIGHT CAME ON AND THE I EXPERIENCED A DECREASED AMOUNT OF ENGINE POWER AND SPEED AND I COULDN'T ACCELERATE. THIS HAPPENED ON THE HIGHWAY, BUT THANKFULLY I WAS ABLE TO COAST TO THE SHOULDER WITHOUT GETTING HIT. THE DEALER IS REPLACING THE THROTTLE BODY, REPROGRAMING MY VEHICLE, AND CLEANING THE INJECTIONS. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS FOR THE 2016 FORD EXPEDITION, BUT FORD IS NOT DOING ANYTHING. I'M GLAD I WAS ABLE TO GET OVER TO THE SHOULDER WITHOUT GETTING HIT SINCE I HAD NO FUNCTION TO ACCELERATE.

I WAS TRAVELING AWAY FROM HOME AND WAS TOWING MY BOAT (ABOUT 4K WEIGHT). NO PERFORMANCE ISSUES OR WARNING LIGHTS ON THE TRIP THUS FAR. WHEN LEAVING THE HOTEL WE STAYED IN, I PRESSED THE BRAKE TO PUT THE TRUCK IN GEAR. THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT STRAIGHT TO THE FLOOR. ALL THE WAY DOWN. THE LOW BRAKE FLUID LIGHT CAME ON AND THE BRAKE WARNING LIGHT WAS ILLUMINATED TOO. THE FLUID RESERVOIR, TOPPED OFF A WEEK BEFORE, WAS COMPLETELY EMPTY, YET NO FLUID WAS ON THE GROUND. GOT THE TRUCK TOWED TO A FORD DEALER. NEEDED A NEW MASTER CYLINDER AND BRAKE BOOSTER, SAYING THAT THE SEAL BETWEEN THOSE 2 PARTS FAILED AND THE FLUID QUICKLY TRANSFERRED FROM THE PREVIOUSLY SEALED MASTER CYLINDER INTO THE BRAKE BOOSTER. DOING A BIT OF RESEARCH, I SEE A NHTSA RECALL ON F-150S THAT HAVE THE SAME MASTER CYLINDER AND BOOSTER. I ALSO SEE AN INVESTIGATION UNDERWAY FOR '15 AND '16 F150S FOR BRAKE FAILURE. AND I SEE STORY UPON STORY OF EXPEDITION OWNERS ON THE EXPEDITION FORUM DESCRIBING THE SAME CRITICAL, POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC FAILURE. I'M GRATEFUL THE TRUCK WAS STOPPED WHEN IT FAILED. I TRULY FEEL I WOULD NOT BE HERE DESCRIBING THE SITUATION TO YOU IF IT HAD FAILED ON THE HIGHWAY, ON A BOAT RAMP, OR EVEN IN A CITY. IT'S REMARKABLE TO ME THAT POSSIBLY A $2.00 SEAL (PART) COULD HAVE COST ME MY LIFE, OR THOSE ALSO IN THE TRUCK. IT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ALLOW TRUCKS TO REMAIN ON THE ROAD WITH A CHEAP PART THAT CAN FAIL THAT EASILY, LIKELY CAUSING DEATH OR SIGNIFICANT INJURY TO SELF AND THOSE YOU RUN INTO. FORD CAN DO BETTER. NHTSA CAN DO BETTER. LET'S GET THIS RECALLED BEFORE OTHERS DIE UNNECESSARILY.

ISSUE WITH BRAKING SYSTEM. WARNING LIGHT TURNED ON INDICATING LOW BRAKE FLUID, AND WITHIN MILE, THE BRAKE PEDAL HIT THE FLOOR. VEHICLE WAS IN MOTION ON A CITY STREET, AND THE BRAKE FAILURE WAS IMMEDIATE. WAS VERY FORTUNATE I WAS ON AN UNCROWDED CITY STREET AND WAS ABLE TO ROLL INTO A GROCERY STORE PARKING LOT WITHOUT INCIDENT. NO LEAKING IDENTIFIED ANYWHERE NEAR THE MASTER CYLINDER OR BRAKES.

VEHICLE WAS IN MOTION ON THE FREEWAY NEARING SPEEDS OF 65MPH WHEN THE BREAK LIGHT CAME ON AND INDICATED LOW BREAK FLUID (PRIOR TO THE ALERT MY BREAKING SYSTEM WAS FUNCTIONING NORMAL) MY BREAKS COMPLETELY GAVE OUT, AND I DEPRESSED THE BREAK PETAL AS FAR AS IT COULD GO ONLY SLIGHTLY SLOWING MY VEHICLE AND RELIED ON MY PARKING BREAK TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP. AFTER TOWING IT TO AN OFFICIAL FORD REPAIR SHOP, THE DIAGNOSTIC SHOWED A FAILED MASTER CYLINDER, WHICH LEAKED BREAK FLUID INTO THE BREAK BOOSTER CAUSING THE WHOLE SYSTEM TO SUDDENLY FAIL PUTTING MY THREE YEAR OLD SONS LIFE IN DANGER AS WELL AS MINE