NHTSA owner reports · September 18, 2026 snapshot.
Engine complaints
76 reportsClear category filter60,000 miles · Jan 8, 2019
EnginePower Train
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA. WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE VEHICLE LOST POWER WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS RESTARTED, BUT THE FAILURE RECURRED SEVERAL TIMES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO LANDERS MCLARTY DODGE CHRYSLER JEEP (256-864-7475, LOCATED AT 6533 UNIVERSITY DR NW, UNIT A, HUNTSVILLE, AL 35806) WHERE …
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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA. WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE VEHICLE LOST POWER WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS RESTARTED, BUT THE FAILURE RECURRED SEVERAL TIMES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO LANDERS MCLARTY DODGE CHRYSLER JEEP (256-864-7475, LOCATED AT 6533 UNIVERSITY DR NW, UNIT A, HUNTSVILLE, AL 35806) WHERE THE FAILURE WAS DUPLICATED; HOWEVER, THE TECHNICIAN STATED THAT THERE WAS NO RECALL. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE AND REFERRED THE CONTACT TO NHTSA TO FILE A COMPLAINT. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 60,000.
NHTSA ODI #11165141
150,000 miles · Dec 13, 2018
EngineSuspension
RANDOM STALLING W/ ALL FUNCTIONS STOPPING. BRAKES, STEERING..ECT. TOOK IT TO SEVERAL LICENSED/CERTIFIED MECHANICS AND NOT 1 OF THEM CAN TELL ME WHAT IS WRONG. THIS HAS NEARLY CAUSED 2 SERIOUS CRASHES SO I NO LONGER ALLOW ANYONE TO RIDE IN THE CAR WITH ME. THE STALLING HAS HAPPENED ON THE HIGHWAY GOING NEARLY 70MPH, ON A 2 LA…
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RANDOM STALLING W/ ALL FUNCTIONS STOPPING. BRAKES, STEERING..ECT. TOOK IT TO SEVERAL LICENSED/CERTIFIED MECHANICS AND NOT 1 OF THEM CAN TELL ME WHAT IS WRONG. THIS HAS NEARLY CAUSED 2 SERIOUS CRASHES SO I NO LONGER ALLOW ANYONE TO RIDE IN THE CAR WITH ME. THE STALLING HAS HAPPENED ON THE HIGHWAY GOING NEARLY 70MPH, ON A 2 LANE HIGHWAY THROUGH TOWN WITH HEAVY TRAFFIC GOING APPROX. 35 MPH, ITS HAPPENED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, ON THE WAY HOME FROM WORK ON A COUNTRY ROAD (SEVERAL TIMES). THE VEHICLE HASN'T EVER STALLED WHILE RUNNING AND STATIONARY. FOR ME THIS HAS ONLY HAPPENED WHILE IN MOTION
NHTSA ODI #11161093
62,000 miles · Apr 7, 2018
Electronic Stability Control (esc)EnginePower Train
WHILE DRIVING AT LOW SPEED OR ACCELERATING FROM BEING PREVIOUSLY IDLE, THE OIL PRESSURE WARNING LIGHT AND THE TRACTION CONTROL INDICATOR WILL SIMULTANEOUSLY LIGHT UP. UPON DOING SO, THE ENGINE WILL LOSE ALL POWER AND SHUT OFF. THIS REQUIRES THE DRIVER TO PUT THE CAR INTO NEUTRAL OR PARK TO START THE VEHICLE AGAIN. THIS PROBLEM O…
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WHILE DRIVING AT LOW SPEED OR ACCELERATING FROM BEING PREVIOUSLY IDLE, THE OIL PRESSURE WARNING LIGHT AND THE TRACTION CONTROL INDICATOR WILL SIMULTANEOUSLY LIGHT UP. UPON DOING SO, THE ENGINE WILL LOSE ALL POWER AND SHUT OFF. THIS REQUIRES THE DRIVER TO PUT THE CAR INTO NEUTRAL OR PARK TO START THE VEHICLE AGAIN. THIS PROBLEM OCCURRING WHILE DRIVING HAS THE POTENTIAL TO CAUSE AN ACCIDENT AT NO FAULT OF THE DRIVER FROM THIS LOSS OF CONTROL.
NHTSA ODI #11083780
Mileage unknown · Apr 3, 2018
Engine
ENGINE RUSTS AND CRADLES LIKE IF IT'S GOING TO FALL OUT THE CAR. WHEN DRIVEN ENGINE SHAKES AND MOVES BACK AND FORTH MAKING A POUNDING SOUND. FEELS VERY UNSAFE.
NHTSA ODI #11083159
185,000 miles · Dec 20, 2017
Electronic Stability Control (esc)Engine
ENGINE WILL SHUT OFF BUT WILL RESTART
NHTSA ODI #11055631
115,000 miles · Oct 3, 2017
EngineTraction Control System
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA. WHILE DRIVING 30 MPH, THE VEHICLE STALLED AND THE OIL AND TRACTION CONTROL INDICATORS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHO WAS UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. A DEALER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE O…
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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA. WHILE DRIVING 30 MPH, THE VEHICLE STALLED AND THE OIL AND TRACTION CONTROL INDICATORS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHO WAS UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. A DEALER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 115,000. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE.
NHTSA ODI #11031523
141,000 miles · Jul 25, 2017
Electrical SystemEngineStructureFire
I PURCHASED MY 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA AT A DEALER SHIP IN FEBRUARY 2017. I HAVE JUST HAD THE VEHICLE FOR 5 MONTHS. THE CAR HAD EVERYTHING RUNNING AND WHEN I SAY EVERYTHING RUNNING; I MEAN A/C WAS WORKING JUST FINE AS WELL AS THE HEATER AND ALL WINDOWS ROLLED UP AND DOWN. I HAD EVERYTHING UPDATED ON THIS VEHICLE. NOW 5 MONTHS LAT…
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I PURCHASED MY 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA AT A DEALER SHIP IN FEBRUARY 2017. I HAVE JUST HAD THE VEHICLE FOR 5 MONTHS. THE CAR HAD EVERYTHING RUNNING AND WHEN I SAY EVERYTHING RUNNING; I MEAN A/C WAS WORKING JUST FINE AS WELL AS THE HEATER AND ALL WINDOWS ROLLED UP AND DOWN. I HAD EVERYTHING UPDATED ON THIS VEHICLE. NOW 5 MONTHS LATER, I HAVE NEIGHBORS ON 7/25/2017 AT AROUND 2PM THAT WITNESSED MY CAR CATCHING ON FIRE. HOW? I DON'T KNOW AND I AM CONFUSED AND WORRIED BECAUSE I HAD JUST PULLED UP TO MY HOME WITH MY FIANCE. OUR CAR CAUGHT ON FIRE ON 7/25/17 I HAD TO CALL THE FIRE FIGHTERS TO COME OUT AND PUT THE FIRE OUT. THIS WAS THE MOST SCARIEST THING I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED. I AM OVERWHELMED. THE FIRE FIGHTERS PUT THE FIRE OUT AND NOW I AM WITH NO VEHICLE. I AM A SINGLE MOTHER OF 3 THAT WORKS A DOUBLE SHIFT JUST TO MAKE A WAY IN LIFE. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS EXPERIENCE AND FEAR FOR MY LIFE FROM HERE ON OUT. I AM SCARED TO DRIVE OR GET IN ANY CAR BECAUSE MIND YOU MY CAR HAD BEEN DRIVING PERFECTLY FINE. I AM DISGUSTED AT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE CRUEL PEOPLE OUT HERE WITH LICENSE DEALERSHIPS THAT ARE ABLE TO SELL VEHICLES WITH VEHICLES THAT CAN COST SOMEONE'S LIFE. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND I AM REQUESTING AN EXPLANATION TO WHY THIS HAPPENED AND I WOULD LIKE SOME KIND OF REIMBURSEMENT FOR MY VEHICLE. ME AND MY CHILDREN DON'T HAVE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO THROW AWAY I PAID FOR THIS CAR CASH. IF YOU NEED PROOF OF MY CAR I CAN SEND PICTURES AND REPORT FROM FIRE FIGHTERS. I CAN SEND YOU PROOF OF ME OWNING THE VEHICLE. I LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING WITH YOU SOON YOU MAY REACH ME AT [XXX] MY NAME IS [XXX] YOU MAY ALSO CALL ME VIA TELEPHONE AT [XXX]. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY! INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR
NHTSA ODI #11010663
130,000 miles · Jun 12, 2017
Engine
THE MOTOR MOUNTS CONTINUE TO FAIL. KEEP NEEDING REPLACED.
NHTSA ODI #10994462
156,713 miles · Apr 21, 2017
EngineService BrakesSteering
MY CAR STOPS RUNNING SHORTLY AFTER DRIVING WITHIN A FEW MINUTES WITH ZERO WARNING. WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE POWER STEERING AND BREAKS STOP FUNCTIONING. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY BEEN ABLE TO RESTART THE CAR AND CONTINUE TO MY DESTINATION. THIS CREATES A DEFIANT SAFETY HAZARD AND HAS HAPPENED RANDOMLY ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. …
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MY CAR STOPS RUNNING SHORTLY AFTER DRIVING WITHIN A FEW MINUTES WITH ZERO WARNING. WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE POWER STEERING AND BREAKS STOP FUNCTIONING. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY BEEN ABLE TO RESTART THE CAR AND CONTINUE TO MY DESTINATION. THIS CREATES A DEFIANT SAFETY HAZARD AND HAS HAPPENED RANDOMLY ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. THE STALLING STARTED AT THE TIME WHEN THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND 'GASCAP' WARNING MESSAGE CAME ON - PERMANENTLY. THE MECHANICS HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FINE THE PROBLEM AND THERE ARE NO COMPUTER CODE READINGS. HAS THERE BEEN A RECALL FOR THIS PROBLEM FROM CHRYSLER?
NHTSA ODI #10979797
101,000 miles · Feb 2, 2017
Engine
STALLS WHILE DRIVING, LOSING STEERING, BRAKING, LIGHTS. TOO MANY CLOSE CALLS WHILE DRIVING. HAVE REPLACED, EGR VALVE ALONG WITH COUPLE OF OTHER SENSORS AND CONTINUE TO HAVE ISSUE WITH IT GROWING IN SEVERITY AND OCCURRENCES. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10949164
NHTSA investigations
2EA08006 · Engine Compartment Fire
Opened Feb 21, 2008 · Closed Apr 15, 2009
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Electrical System; Electrical System:wiring:front Underhood; Electrical System:wiring:interior/under Dash; Engine And Engine Cooling; Steering:hydraulic Power Assist:power Steering Fluid
THE AGENCY HAS CLOSED THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON ITS REVIEW OF CONSUMER COMPLAINTS, FIELD REPORTS, WARRANTY CLAIMS AND OTHER DATA REGARDING ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES AND POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKAGE IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA VEHICLES WITH 4.0L ENGINES.THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKS IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES AND THE FIRES THAT MAY RESULT FROM THESE LEAKS, OCCURRED EARLY IN THE VEHICLE'S SERVICE LIFE.MOREOVER, CHANGES IN THE ASSEMBLY PROCESS APPEAR TO HAVE REMEDIED THE CONDITION CAUSING THE LEAKS.THE AVAILABLE DATA CONFIRMS A DECLINING TREND FOR BOTH COMPLAINTS AND WARRANTY CLAIMS AS THE SUBJECT VEHICLES REMAIN IN SERVICE. THE CLOSING OF THIS INVESTIGATION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY THE AGENCY THAT A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT DOES NOT EXIST.THE AGENCY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WARRANTED BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES. (SEE DOCUMENT FILE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THIS RESUME.)
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Electrical System
THE AGENCY HAS CLOSED THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON ITS REVIEW OF CONSUMER COMPLAINTS, FIELD REPORTS, WARRANTY CLAIMS AND OTHER DATA REGARDING ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES AND POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKAGE IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA VEHICLES WITH 4.0L ENGINES.THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKS IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES AND THE FIRES THAT MAY RESULT FROM THESE LEAKS, OCCURRED EARLY IN THE VEHICLE'S SERVICE LIFE.MOREOVER, CHANGES IN THE ASSEMBLY PROCESS APPEAR TO HAVE REMEDIED THE CONDITION CAUSING THE LEAKS.THE AVAILABLE DATA CONFIRMS A DECLINING TREND FOR BOTH COMPLAINTS AND WARRANTY CLAIMS AS THE SUBJECT VEHICLES REMAIN IN SERVICE. THE CLOSING OF THIS INVESTIGATION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY THE AGENCY THAT A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT DOES NOT EXIST.THE AGENCY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WARRANTED BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES. (SEE DOCUMENT FILE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THIS RESUME.)
Electrical System:wiring:front Underhood
THE AGENCY HAS CLOSED THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON ITS REVIEW OF CONSUMER COMPLAINTS, FIELD REPORTS, WARRANTY CLAIMS AND OTHER DATA REGARDING ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES AND POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKAGE IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA VEHICLES WITH 4.0L ENGINES.THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKS IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES AND THE FIRES THAT MAY RESULT FROM THESE LEAKS, OCCURRED EARLY IN THE VEHICLE'S SERVICE LIFE.MOREOVER, CHANGES IN THE ASSEMBLY PROCESS APPEAR TO HAVE REMEDIED THE CONDITION CAUSING THE LEAKS.THE AVAILABLE DATA CONFIRMS A DECLINING TREND FOR BOTH COMPLAINTS AND WARRANTY CLAIMS AS THE SUBJECT VEHICLES REMAIN IN SERVICE. THE CLOSING OF THIS INVESTIGATION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY THE AGENCY THAT A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT DOES NOT EXIST.THE AGENCY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WARRANTED BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES. (SEE DOCUMENT FILE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THIS RESUME.)
Electrical System:wiring:interior/under Dash
THE AGENCY HAS CLOSED THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON ITS REVIEW OF CONSUMER COMPLAINTS, FIELD REPORTS, WARRANTY CLAIMS AND OTHER DATA REGARDING ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES AND POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKAGE IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA VEHICLES WITH 4.0L ENGINES.THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKS IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES AND THE FIRES THAT MAY RESULT FROM THESE LEAKS, OCCURRED EARLY IN THE VEHICLE'S SERVICE LIFE.MOREOVER, CHANGES IN THE ASSEMBLY PROCESS APPEAR TO HAVE REMEDIED THE CONDITION CAUSING THE LEAKS.THE AVAILABLE DATA CONFIRMS A DECLINING TREND FOR BOTH COMPLAINTS AND WARRANTY CLAIMS AS THE SUBJECT VEHICLES REMAIN IN SERVICE. THE CLOSING OF THIS INVESTIGATION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY THE AGENCY THAT A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT DOES NOT EXIST.THE AGENCY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WARRANTED BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES. (SEE DOCUMENT FILE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THIS RESUME.)
Engine And Engine Cooling
THE AGENCY HAS CLOSED THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON ITS REVIEW OF CONSUMER COMPLAINTS, FIELD REPORTS, WARRANTY CLAIMS AND OTHER DATA REGARDING ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES AND POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKAGE IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA VEHICLES WITH 4.0L ENGINES.THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKS IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES AND THE FIRES THAT MAY RESULT FROM THESE LEAKS, OCCURRED EARLY IN THE VEHICLE'S SERVICE LIFE.MOREOVER, CHANGES IN THE ASSEMBLY PROCESS APPEAR TO HAVE REMEDIED THE CONDITION CAUSING THE LEAKS.THE AVAILABLE DATA CONFIRMS A DECLINING TREND FOR BOTH COMPLAINTS AND WARRANTY CLAIMS AS THE SUBJECT VEHICLES REMAIN IN SERVICE. THE CLOSING OF THIS INVESTIGATION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY THE AGENCY THAT A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT DOES NOT EXIST.THE AGENCY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WARRANTED BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES. (SEE DOCUMENT FILE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THIS RESUME.)
Steering:hydraulic Power Assist:power Steering Fluid
THE AGENCY HAS CLOSED THIS INVESTIGATION BASED ON ITS REVIEW OF CONSUMER COMPLAINTS, FIELD REPORTS, WARRANTY CLAIMS AND OTHER DATA REGARDING ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES AND POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKAGE IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2007 CHRYSLER PACIFICA VEHICLES WITH 4.0L ENGINES.THE AVAILABLE EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKS IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLES AND THE FIRES THAT MAY RESULT FROM THESE LEAKS, OCCURRED EARLY IN THE VEHICLE'S SERVICE LIFE.MOREOVER, CHANGES IN THE ASSEMBLY PROCESS APPEAR TO HAVE REMEDIED THE CONDITION CAUSING THE LEAKS.THE AVAILABLE DATA CONFIRMS A DECLINING TREND FOR BOTH COMPLAINTS AND WARRANTY CLAIMS AS THE SUBJECT VEHICLES REMAIN IN SERVICE. THE CLOSING OF THIS INVESTIGATION DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A FINDING BY THE AGENCY THAT A SAFETY-RELATED DEFECT DOES NOT EXIST.THE AGENCY RESERVES THE RIGHT TO TAKE FURTHER ACTION IF WARRANTED BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES. (SEE DOCUMENT FILE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THIS RESUME.)
PE07052 · Engine Compartment Fire
Opened Oct 19, 2007 · Closed Feb 21, 2008
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Steering:hydraulic Power Assist:power Steering Fluid
COMPLAINANTS ALLEGE THAT A FIRE ERUPTED UNDER THE HOOD, NEAR THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLE.IN CHRYSLER'S RESPONSE TO ODI'S NOVEMBER 2, 2007 INFORMATION REQUEST, CHRYSLER ASSERTS THAT THE ALLEGED DEFECT OCCURS ONLY IN THE 4.0L ENGINES AND THE CONSUMER WILL EXPERIENCE A LOSS OF POWER STEERING FLUID OR A NOISY POWER STEERING PUMP BEFORE SEEING ANY EVIDENCE OF SMOKE OR FIRE.CHRYSLER ALSO STATES THAT A TUBE NUT ON THE HIGH PRESSURE POWER STEERING LINE WAS DISCOVERED TO BE CROSS THREADED DURING THE ASSEMBLY PROCESS AND DID NOT ALLOW PROPER SEALING OF THE O-RING.THE POWER STEERING SYSTEM IN THE 4.0L ENGINE IS ASSEMBLED AT THE CHRYSLER PLANT.THE POWER STEERING SYSTEM FOR THE 3.8L ENGINES ARRIVES AT THE CHRYSLER PLANT PRE-ASSEMBLED.CHRYSLER FOUND THAT IN THE 4.0L ENGINE, IT WAS POSSIBLE TO CROSS-THREAD THE TUBE NUT ON THE HIGH PRESSURE LINE DURING ITS ATTACHMENT TO THE STEERING GEAR, THUS CREATING AN IMPROPER SEAL.CHRYSLER IMPLEMENTED ASSEMBLY PLANT PROCESS CHANGES TO ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF CROSS-THREADING, AND APPLIED ADDITIONAL QUALITY CONTROL MEASURES TO DETECT POWER STEERING FLUID LEAKS.CHRYSLER STATED THAT WARRANTY AND FIELD DATA SUGGESTS THAT THESE PROCESS CHANGES HAVE MINIMIZED THE POSSIBILITY OF CROSS-THREADING.WITH REGARD TO THE VEHICLES PRODUCED PRIOR TO THE PRODUCTION CHANGE, A REVIEW OF THE WARRANTY CLAIMS INDICATES THAT THE ALLEGED DEFECT HAS NOT DECLINED IN THE 4.0L POPULATION.ODI IS UPGRADING THIS PRELIMINARY EVALUATION TO AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS, EA08-006, TO FURTHER EVALUATE THE ISSUE.