2013 CAN-AM Spyder Rt

I TOOK A TRIP TO GEORGIA ON OCTOBER 24, , AND ON SUNDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 26, WHEN I STARTED THE SPYDER TO LEAVE, IT BEGAN TO STALL AT IDLE, IT CUT OFF REPEATEDLY, AND IDLED ROUGH. IT WOULDN'T MAINTAIN THE NORMAL IDLE RANGE OF 1200-1300 RPM. I FINALLY WAS ABLE TO DRIVE IT OFF, AND AS I RODE, THE IDLE WAS ROUGH FOR A FEW MILES, BUT AFTER I GOT IT ON THE FREEWAY, IT SEEMED OKAY. ONCE AGAIN, THE HEAT ISSUE AND FUEL SMELLS BECAME EVIDENT AS I RODE BACK TO ALABAMA, AND THE OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE ROSE. IT SEEMS THAT ANY OUTSIDE TEMPERATURES ABOVE 70 DEGREES AND THE HEAT FROM THE VEHICLE BECOMES WORSE WITH THE RESULTING FUEL SMELL AND A LOT OF HEAT COMING FROM THE ENGINE AND FUEL TANK WHEN GOING TO FILL UP. I WAS A BIT WORRIED BEING SO FAR FROM HOME, BUT I GOT BACK OKAY. *TR

I WAS RIDING ON HIGHWAY 291 IN LEES SUMMIT MO TRAVELING AT 65 MPH. THE DAILY TEMP WAS BETWEEN 92 - 95 DEGREES. THE FAN WAS BLOWING THE HOT AIR OUT FROM THE BIKES RADIATOR AREA AND WITH THE BIKE BEING IN MOTION THE HOT AIR WAS BEING ROUTED ONTO MY RIGHT LEG AND I COULD FEEL MY LEG GETTING HOT TO THE POINT THAT I WAS UNABLE TO KEEP MY FOOT ON THE FOOT PEG FOR LONGER THAN 10-15 SECONDS AFTER WHICH, I NEEDED TO KEEP SHIFTING THE LOCATION OF MY FOOT ON THE FOOT PEG. I ALSO NOTICED THAT THE RIGHT SIDE PANELS AND THE AIR COMING FROM UNDER THE SEAT WAS UNCOMFORTABLY HOT. ALSO WHEN REFUELING THE GAS TANK FILLER NECK WAS TOO HOT TO TOUCH. DURING THE FIRST LONG TRIP ON THIS BIKE (WEEKEND OF OCT 25-26) FROM GRAIN VALLEY MO TO EUREKA SPRINGS AR (540 MILES ROUND TRIP). TEMPS WERE IN THE 70'S DURING THE TRIP TO AR AND WHEN REFUELING I NOTICED THAT THE GAS TANK FILLER NECK WAS OVERLY WARM. THE RETURN TRIP, WITH TEMPS IN THE MID 80S, THE HEAT ON MY RIGHT LEG WAS BECOMING UNCOMFORTABLE, THE RIGHT SIDE PANELS WERE HOT AND THE HEAT UNDER THE SEAT WAS OVERLY WARM. REFUELING, THE GAS TANK FILLER NECK WAS ALMOST TOO HOT TO TOUCH. *TR

NOTICED BAD FUEL SMELL FROM DAY ONE OF OWNING THE SPYDER. WOULD LEAVE OUTSIDE WHILE IT COOLED OFF OR PUT A BOX FAN ON IT TO BLOW THE VAPORS OUT OF THE GARAGE. IN AUGUST OF 2013 I NOTICED THE BRAKE LIGHTS STAYING ON, REMOVED SIDE PANEL TO FINED THE WIRES MELTED AND SHORTED TOGETHER. I ALSO NOTICED THE PLASTIC ON THE MASTER CYLINDER SHOWED SIGNS OF MELTING AND OF GETTING HOT. I REPAIRED THE WIRES WITH HIGH TEMPERATURE ELECTRICAL TAPE. I RECEIVED A SAFETY RECALL NOTICE FROM BRP IN SEPTEMBER FOR HEAT RELATED PROBLEMS. THE DEALER FOUND THE FUEL EVAPORATOR CANISTER ALMOST BURNED THROUGH, IT WAS REPLACED AND COVERED IT WITH TIN FOIL HEAT SHIELD. THE DEALER DID NOT THINK THE BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER WAS MELTED BAD ENOUGH TO WARRANT CHANGING AND COVERED IT WITH TIN FOIL HEAT SHIELD. I HAD THEM TO LEAVE THE WIRING AS I HAD ALREADY REPAIRED IT. THE BAD FUEL SMELL CONTINUED WITH THE NEW FUEL EVAPORATOR CANISTER AND THE FUEL BOILS WHERE YOU CAN HEAR IT AFTER A RIDE. IF YOU LOOK UNDER THE SPYDER AFTER A RIDE YOU CAN SEE FUEL VAPORS SPEWING AND DRIPPING FROM THE VENT LINE, AND IT WILL CONTINUE FOR MAYBE AN HOUR OR LONGER. IT IS SOMETIMES HARD TO PUT FUEL IN BECAUSE IT MAKES THE GAS PUMP NOZZLE KEEP CUTTING OFF. *TR

DURING A TRIP IN SEPTEMBER OF 2013 TO UPSTATE NY, THE BIKE STARTED TO GIVE OFF A STRONG SMELL OF GAS & MELTING PLASTIC. THE BIKE WENT INTO LIMP MODE SO I PULLED INTO A NEAR BY GAS STATION IN ORDER TO GET OFF THE ROAD. I LET THE BIKE SIT FOR ABOUT 15 TO 20 MINUTES SO IT WOULD RESET. WHEN I STARTED THE BIKE UP AGAIN IN REMAINED IN LIMP MODE. I CONTACTED THE NEAREST LOCAL DEALER AND RODE THE BIKE TO THEM FOR SERVICE. UPON INSPECTION THE TECHNICIAN DISCOVERED THAT THE LOWER RIGHT HAND BODY PANEL WAS DAMAGED DUE TO EXCESSIVE HEAT IN ADDITION THE FUEL EVAPORATOR CANISTER HAD MELTED AND HAD DEVELOPED NOTICEABLE HOLE. *TR

THIS IS MY THIRD COMPLAINT REGARDING THIS VEHICLE. IN ADDITION TO THE SEVERE HEAT AND GASOLINE ODOR PROBLEMS WHICH I DESCRIBED IN EARLIER COMPLAINTS, THE VEHICLE HAS BECOME VERY HARD TO START WHEN THE ENGINE IS WARM. NORMAL IDLE RPM IS 1,300 TO 1,400. WHEN THIS CONDITION OCCURS - AS IT HAS ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS - THE RPM DOES NOT EXCEED 500, AND THERE IS LIMITED THROTTLE RESPONSE. THE ENGINE STALLS, AND THERE IS AN OVERPOWERING ODOR OF GASOLINE EMANATING FROM THE VEHICLE AS IF THE THROTTLE BODY IS BEING FLOODED WITH GASOLINE. THE DEALER AND BRP (BOMBARDIER RECREATIONAL PRODUCTS) HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM. BRP HAS PROPOSED THAT MY DEALER REPLACE THE PURGE VALVE AND OXYGEN SENSOR TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM, AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED HEAT PROBLEM. I AM WAITING FOR THE DEALER TO OBTAIN THE REPAIR PARTS. I WAS TOLD BY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM BRP THAT IF THESE REPAIRS DID NOT FIX THE PROBLEMS, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING MORE THAT THEY COULD DO TO ADDRESS THEM. I, AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS, BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE MAY DESIGN FLAWS WITH THIS VEHICLE. THE FRAME FOR THE 2013 RT WAS INTENDED TO HAVE A NEW ENGINE, A 1330 CC INLINE THREE CYLINDER RATHER THAN THE 998 CC V-TWIN. THE BRP REPRESENTATIVE ADMITTED TO ME THAT THE NEW ENGINE FOR THIS VEHICLE "WAS NOT READY" AT THE TIME OF PRODUCTION OF THE 2013 MODEL, AND THEY WERE FORCED TO USE THE OLDER ENGINE. THIS ENGINE RUNS VERY HOT, AND BEING FULLY ENCLOSED BY PLASTIC PANELS EXACERBATES THE PROBLEM. IT IS INFURIATING TO SPEND $27,000.00 ON A VEHICLE WHOSE PROBLEMS ARE NOT BEING PROACTIVELY ADDRESSED BY BRP. THE DEALER THAT I PURCHASED THE VEHICLE FROM WAS AWARE OF THESE PROBLEMS, YET MADE NO MENTION OF THEM AT THE TIME OF THE SALE. I URGE NHTSA TO COMPEL BRP TO RECALL THESE VEHICLES, ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS, AND FIND A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION TO THEM. *TR

PURCHASED DEMO THE END OF SEPTEMBER 2013. LIMITED RIDING BEFORE PUT AWAY FOR THE WINTER. STARTING IN THE SPRING I STARTED NOTICING A STRONG GASOLINE SMELL AND EXTREME EXCESSIVE HEAT. FUEL CAP IS EXTREMELY HOT AND GAS IS BOILING WHICH MAKE FILLING HARD AS NOZZLE KEEPS SHUTTING OFF. THIS IS OCCURRING IN AMBIENT TEMPERATURES AS LOW 53 DEGREES. THE RECALL AND ALL SERVICE BULLETINS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THE FUEL CANISTER HAS BEEN REPLACED IN SEPTEMBER 2014. WITHIN 200 MILES, THE GAS SMELL RETURNED AND IS NOTICEABLE BY MY HUSBAND RIDING BEHIND ME AT 15 MPH. WHEN STOPPED IN TRAFFIC THE SMELL IS OVERWHELMING. THE EXTREME HEAT CONTINUES AND I TO WEAR EXTRA PROTECTION ON MY LEGS. I HAVE KEPT OUR DEALER ADVISED OF THE HEAT ISSUES. *TR

WENT FOR A RIDE HAD FUEL SMELL WHEN STOP AT LIGHT ,TOOK A BREAK AT FAST FOOD PLACE AND SMELLED FUEL AGAIN LOOK ON DRIVEWAY SAW FUEL VAPORS , WENT HOME PARKS IN GARAGE ,LATER SMELLED FUEL, HAD TO OPEN DOORS AND WINDOWS TO LET THE SMELL OUT , THIS HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES ,WENT TO DEALER TO FIND OUT WATT GOING ON WITH THE SPYDER THEY WORK ON IT 3 -4 TIMES . THIS BIN GOING BACK TO DEALER ALL SUMMER LONG ABOUT THE HEAT AND SMELL THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. *TR

I PURCHASED THIS WHEN THERE WAS A LARGE REBATE FOR BUYING THE 2013 SPYDERS. I HAVE BEEN PLAGUED WITH A HOT SEAT AND RIGHT FOOT SINCE THE BEGINNING. I WIND UP HAVING TO MOVE MY RIGHT FOOT TO THE REAR PASSENGER FLOOR BOARD TO ESCAPE THE HEAT AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE MY INNER THIGHS ARE BURNED WHERE THE HEAT IS COMING UP AROUND THE SEAT. I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A RECALL ON THIS BIKE AND WILL BE HAVING THIS DONE AS SOON AS THEY GET THE PARTS IN BUT FROM READING INFORMATION ON A BLOG THAT I SUBSCRIBED TO, IT PROBABLY WON'T HELP. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION GOING ON AND WANT TO ADD MY INFORMATION TO IT. THANKS *TR

I WAS TRAVELING IN STOP AND GO TRAFFIC WHEN THE SPYDER STARTED PRODUCING EXCESS HEAT FROM UNDER THE MACHINE AND AROUND THE GAS TANK. I STOPPED AT A GAS STATION TO FILL THE TANK AS IT HAD ABOUT AN 1/8 OF A TANK. THE GAS CAP WAS SO HOT IT COULDN'T BE TOUCHED FOR TEN MINUTES. YOU COULD HEAR THE GAS BOILING IN THE TANK. UPON GETTING THE CAP OFF, IT TOOK SEVERAL MINUTES TO PUMP GAS INTO THE TANK AS THE NOZZLE KEPT SHUTTING OFF. THE OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE WAS 83 DEGREES. IT WAS GIVING OFF A VERY STRONG GAS SMELL. I RETURNED TO MY DEALER AND EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD CONTACT BRP. THE DEALER HAS WRAPPED THE HEADER PIPES AND REPLACED THE EVAPORATOR CANISTER AND PURGE VALVE MANY TIMES. AT THIS TIME MY SPYDER HAS 22500 MILES AND THE GAS CAP CAN'T BE TIGHTENED COMPLETELY BECAUSE IT WON'T UNSCREW IF THE SPYDER IS WARM. I AM STILL HAVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS WITH MY SPYDER AND BRP HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND A SOLUTION. *TR

I PURCHASED MY CAN-AM SPYDER IN AUGUST OF 2013. THE RECALL FOR THE HEAT ISSUES WAS COMPLETED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2013 BY MY DEALER. OVER THE LAST YEAR I HAVE HAD INCIDENTS OF A GAS SMELL, SOMETIMES VERY STRONG, AND HEAT FROM THE ENGINE AREA. RECENTLY, A BURNING PLASTIC SMELL HAS BEEN OCCURRING. IT IS NOTICED AT DIFFERENT SPEEDS. FIRST INCIDENT WAS AROUND 40 MILES PER HOUR ON A 2 LANE ROAD, NEXT TIME WAS GOING DOWN A FAIRLY STEEP HILL AROUND 30 MILES PER HOUR, AND THE THIRD INCIDENT WAS ON A 50 MILE PER HOUR 2 LANE ROAD. THESE INCIDENTS WERE ON DIFFERENT DAYS. THE BURNING PLASTIC SMELL WAS ALSO NOTICED BY MY RIDING PARTNER BEHIND ME. I AM VERY CONCERNED WITH THE FIRES THAT HAVE OCCURRED WITH THESE MACHINES AND THE INVESTIGATION BEING DONE BY NHTSA. I HAVE BROUGHT THE SPYDER RT TO MY DEALER BUT THEY SAID THEY DID NOT SEE ANY ISSUES THAT COULD BE CAUSING THE BURNING PLASTIC SMELL. *TR