2013 CAN-AM Spyder Rt

THIS IS MY THIRD COMPLAINT REGARDING THIS VEHICLE. IN ADDITION TO THE SEVERE HEAT AND GASOLINE ODOR PROBLEMS WHICH I DESCRIBED IN EARLIER COMPLAINTS, THE VEHICLE HAS BECOME VERY HARD TO START WHEN THE ENGINE IS WARM. NORMAL IDLE RPM IS 1,300 TO 1,400. WHEN THIS CONDITION OCCURS - AS IT HAS ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS - THE RPM DOES NOT EXCEED 500, AND THERE IS LIMITED THROTTLE RESPONSE. THE ENGINE STALLS, AND THERE IS AN OVERPOWERING ODOR OF GASOLINE EMANATING FROM THE VEHICLE AS IF THE THROTTLE BODY IS BEING FLOODED WITH GASOLINE. THE DEALER AND BRP (BOMBARDIER RECREATIONAL PRODUCTS) HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM. BRP HAS PROPOSED THAT MY DEALER REPLACE THE PURGE VALVE AND OXYGEN SENSOR TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM, AS WELL AS THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED HEAT PROBLEM. I AM WAITING FOR THE DEALER TO OBTAIN THE REPAIR PARTS. I WAS TOLD BY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM BRP THAT IF THESE REPAIRS DID NOT FIX THE PROBLEMS, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING MORE THAT THEY COULD DO TO ADDRESS THEM. I, AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS, BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE MAY DESIGN FLAWS WITH THIS VEHICLE. THE FRAME FOR THE 2013 RT WAS INTENDED TO HAVE A NEW ENGINE, A 1330 CC INLINE THREE CYLINDER RATHER THAN THE 998 CC V-TWIN. THE BRP REPRESENTATIVE ADMITTED TO ME THAT THE NEW ENGINE FOR THIS VEHICLE "WAS NOT READY" AT THE TIME OF PRODUCTION OF THE 2013 MODEL, AND THEY WERE FORCED TO USE THE OLDER ENGINE. THIS ENGINE RUNS VERY HOT, AND BEING FULLY ENCLOSED BY PLASTIC PANELS EXACERBATES THE PROBLEM. IT IS INFURIATING TO SPEND $27,000.00 ON A VEHICLE WHOSE PROBLEMS ARE NOT BEING PROACTIVELY ADDRESSED BY BRP. THE DEALER THAT I PURCHASED THE VEHICLE FROM WAS AWARE OF THESE PROBLEMS, YET MADE NO MENTION OF THEM AT THE TIME OF THE SALE. I URGE NHTSA TO COMPEL BRP TO RECALL THESE VEHICLES, ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS, AND FIND A COMPREHENSIVE SOLUTION TO THEM. *TR

PURCHASED DEMO THE END OF SEPTEMBER 2013. LIMITED RIDING BEFORE PUT AWAY FOR THE WINTER. STARTING IN THE SPRING I STARTED NOTICING A STRONG GASOLINE SMELL AND EXTREME EXCESSIVE HEAT. FUEL CAP IS EXTREMELY HOT AND GAS IS BOILING WHICH MAKE FILLING HARD AS NOZZLE KEEPS SHUTTING OFF. THIS IS OCCURRING IN AMBIENT TEMPERATURES AS LOW 53 DEGREES. THE RECALL AND ALL SERVICE BULLETINS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND THE FUEL CANISTER HAS BEEN REPLACED IN SEPTEMBER 2014. WITHIN 200 MILES, THE GAS SMELL RETURNED AND IS NOTICEABLE BY MY HUSBAND RIDING BEHIND ME AT 15 MPH. WHEN STOPPED IN TRAFFIC THE SMELL IS OVERWHELMING. THE EXTREME HEAT CONTINUES AND I TO WEAR EXTRA PROTECTION ON MY LEGS. I HAVE KEPT OUR DEALER ADVISED OF THE HEAT ISSUES. *TR

WENT FOR A RIDE HAD FUEL SMELL WHEN STOP AT LIGHT ,TOOK A BREAK AT FAST FOOD PLACE AND SMELLED FUEL AGAIN LOOK ON DRIVEWAY SAW FUEL VAPORS , WENT HOME PARKS IN GARAGE ,LATER SMELLED FUEL, HAD TO OPEN DOORS AND WINDOWS TO LET THE SMELL OUT , THIS HAPPEN SEVERAL TIMES ,WENT TO DEALER TO FIND OUT WATT GOING ON WITH THE SPYDER THEY WORK ON IT 3 -4 TIMES . THIS BIN GOING BACK TO DEALER ALL SUMMER LONG ABOUT THE HEAT AND SMELL THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT. *TR

I PURCHASED THIS WHEN THERE WAS A LARGE REBATE FOR BUYING THE 2013 SPYDERS. I HAVE BEEN PLAGUED WITH A HOT SEAT AND RIGHT FOOT SINCE THE BEGINNING. I WIND UP HAVING TO MOVE MY RIGHT FOOT TO THE REAR PASSENGER FLOOR BOARD TO ESCAPE THE HEAT AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE MY INNER THIGHS ARE BURNED WHERE THE HEAT IS COMING UP AROUND THE SEAT. I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A RECALL ON THIS BIKE AND WILL BE HAVING THIS DONE AS SOON AS THEY GET THE PARTS IN BUT FROM READING INFORMATION ON A BLOG THAT I SUBSCRIBED TO, IT PROBABLY WON'T HELP. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION GOING ON AND WANT TO ADD MY INFORMATION TO IT. THANKS *TR

I WAS TRAVELING IN STOP AND GO TRAFFIC WHEN THE SPYDER STARTED PRODUCING EXCESS HEAT FROM UNDER THE MACHINE AND AROUND THE GAS TANK. I STOPPED AT A GAS STATION TO FILL THE TANK AS IT HAD ABOUT AN 1/8 OF A TANK. THE GAS CAP WAS SO HOT IT COULDN'T BE TOUCHED FOR TEN MINUTES. YOU COULD HEAR THE GAS BOILING IN THE TANK. UPON GETTING THE CAP OFF, IT TOOK SEVERAL MINUTES TO PUMP GAS INTO THE TANK AS THE NOZZLE KEPT SHUTTING OFF. THE OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE WAS 83 DEGREES. IT WAS GIVING OFF A VERY STRONG GAS SMELL. I RETURNED TO MY DEALER AND EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD CONTACT BRP. THE DEALER HAS WRAPPED THE HEADER PIPES AND REPLACED THE EVAPORATOR CANISTER AND PURGE VALVE MANY TIMES. AT THIS TIME MY SPYDER HAS 22500 MILES AND THE GAS CAP CAN'T BE TIGHTENED COMPLETELY BECAUSE IT WON'T UNSCREW IF THE SPYDER IS WARM. I AM STILL HAVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS WITH MY SPYDER AND BRP HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND A SOLUTION. *TR

I HAVE THE 2013 SPYDER RTL SINCE 11-23-2013. EVER SINCE GETTING IT THERE HAS BEEN EXCESSIVE HEAT COMING FROM THE BIKE, ESPECIALLY ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHERE THE RADIATOR EXHAUST IS VENTED. THE BIKE GETS EXTREMELY HOT WHETHER SITTING STILL OR MOVING. VERY UNCOMFORTABLE ON THE RIGHT LEG AND ANKLE. UNDER THE SEAT AND THE CENTER STORAGE AREA GETS EXTREMELY HOT AFTER RIDING. I FEEL THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS TO THE RIDER. *TR

AFTER BUYING MY SPYDER I NOTICED EXCESSIVE HEAT COMING FROM THE ENGINE AREA UNDER MY SEAT. AT TIMES ITS SO HOT THAT I CAN BARELY TOUCH MY GAS CAP WITH IS LOCATED UNDER THE SEAT. THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW TIME THAT AFTER RIDING FOR A EXTENDED PERIOD AND STOPPING THE BIKE I'VE NOTICED THE SMELL OF GASOLINE. I'VE CHECKED FOR FUEL LEAKS AND FOUND NONE, AND CALLED THE DEALERSHIP TO COMPLAIN. THEY TOLD ME THAT IT WAS PROBABLY THE FUEL TANK OVER PRESSURIZING BECAUSE OF THE HEAT AND VENTING TO THE AIR. I WAS ADVISED TO PARK THE BIKE OUT SIDE UNTIL IT COOLED DOWN BEFORE BRINGING IT INTO THE GARAGE. WHILE RIDING THE HEAT COMING UP FROM UNDER THE SEAT IS REALLY BAD, MAKING RIDING NOT MUCH FUN. I'VE CALLED BRP TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE PROBLEM BUT AS OF YET HEARD ANY THING BACK FROM THEM. I'VE READ THAT SEVERAL SPYDER'S HAVE CAUGHT FIRE, AND STILL NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. MY FELLOW SPYDER RIDERS HAVE ALL COMPLAINED ABOUT THE HEAT PROBLEM, OTHER THAN THAT THE BIKE IS GREAT. I JUST WANT BRP TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO THE HEAT PROBLEM. *TR

MY RETURN FROM A SPYDER GATHERING WAS ABOUT 100 MILES TOTAL, INCLUDING SOME STOP AND GO TRAFFIC THRU SEATTLE, AIR TEMPERATURES IN THE LOW 80S (F), AND COMPLETED WITH ABOUT 40 MILES OF OPEN HIGHWAY CRUISING AT 50-60MPH AND AIR TEMPS IN THE HIGH 70S. DURING THIS ENTIRE RIDE, I STRUGGLED TO FIND A POSITION IN WHICH I COULD PLACE MY RIGHT BOOT WHERE IT WAS NOT UNBEARABLY HOT! THE SPYDER NEVER SHOWED ANY SIGNS OF OVERHEATING, BUT MY BOOT SURE DID!!! I WILL ADD THAT I WAS RIDING IN JEANS, LEATHER CHAPS, HIKING BOOTS AND HEAVY SOCKS. POSITIONING MY BOOT IN SUCH A WAY AS TO TRY TO COOL IT DOWN SOME WOULD PLACE IT CONCERNING FAR FROM THE BRAKE PEDAL. I WAS FORCED TO CHOSE BETWEEN SOME HEAT RELIEF AND SAFETY. ? TOWARDS THE END OF MY RIDE, I FINALLY WAS STOPPED BY A TRAFFIC LIGHT, AT WHICH POINT I SMELLED GASOLINE FUMES VERY STRONG THRU MY FULL FACE HELMET! I ALMOST BAILED OFF, BEING CONCERNED THAT THERE WAS A RISK OF FIRE! I TRIED TO LOOK UNDER THE BIKE TO SEE IF FUEL WAS LEAKING BUT THE LIGHT TURNED GREEN AND I HAD TRAFFIC BEHIND ME. THE FUEL GAUGE AT THIS POINT READ A BIT LESS THAN HALF A TANK. I WAS HOME IN MY DRIVEWAY IN JUST ANOTHER 5 MINUTES. MY WIFE AND MY NEIGHBOR BOTH CAME OUT TO MEET ME AND ASK HOW MY FIRST LONG RIDE WENT. THEY BOTH SMELLED THE GASOLINE ALSO. I OPENED THE SEAT, WHICH WAS ALSO EXTREMELY HOT UNDERNEATH AND ALLOWED THE SPYDER TO COOL DOWN BEFORE PARKING IT BACK IN MY GARAGE. *TR

DURING THE SPRING, SUMMER, FALL = I.E.WARM / HOT DAYS / MONTHS THERE IS AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF HEAT [ 100 + DEGREES] COMING FROM THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT. THIS MOTORCYCLE HAS THE FRONT , BOTH SIDES , AND REAR PANELS THAT ENCASE THE MOTORCYCLE. AIR COMES IN FROM THE FRONT THEN GOES AROUND THE ENGINE WITH NO PLACE FOR THE HOT AIR TO GO EXCEPT UP AND OUT WHICH HEATS UP THE SIDE PANELS AND UP THROUGH THE CENTER WHICH HEATS UP THE GAS TANK. AT TIMES WHEN STOP TO REFUEL; WHEN YOU REMOVE THE GAS CAP YOU CAN FEEL THE HEAT COMING FROM INSIDE THE GAS TANK. THIS HEAT DEAL IS EXTREMELY EXCESSIVE AND CAN BURN YOUR FEET, ANKLES,AND LEGS. IF YOU'VE HAD ANKLE REPLACEMENT [METAL ALLOY] THIS HEAT IS UNBEARABLE. BEEN IN CONTACT WITH BRP ON THIS AND SEEM TO BE GETTING THE RUN- AROUND. TRYKE IS AT MY DEALER WAITING FOR THIS PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED. UNSAFE. UNDERSTAND BRP HAS KNOWN ABOUT THIS THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. CAN YOU HELP. THIS IS TOO NICE A VEHICLE TO HAVE SITTING AT THE DEALER COLLECTING DUST. CAN YOU HELP. *TR

HEAT UNDER THE SEAT IS TO HOT TO RIDE SAFETY. ALWAYS TRYING TO SHIFT AND OPEN LEGS TO TRY AND GET SOME RELIEF. HEAT COMING OFF THE RIGHT SIDE HAS ACTUALLY CAUSED A RED HEAT RASH ON MY RIGHT SHIN FROM MY ANKLE UPWARDS. WHEN REFUELING I AM SO SCARED THAT THE GAS IS GOING TO FLAME UP BECAUSE OF THE FUMES AND THE HEAT RADIATING FROM UNDER THE SEAT WHICH MUST BE LIFTED TO REFUEL. I HAVE TRIED PLACING ALUMINUM FOIL UNDER THE SEAT IN THE HOPES OF DISSIPATING THE HEAT BUT IT HAS NOT WORKED. I STORE MY CAN AM SPYDER IN A TRAILER AND MUST LEAVE ALL THE DOORS OPEN FOR SEVERAL HOURS UNTIL THE FUMES SUBSIDED. I AM AFRAID OF A FIRE AND HAVE MOVED THE TRAILER FAR AWAY FROM MY OTHER VEHICLES AND HOUSE. *TR