2008 Scion Xd

AFTER CAR WAS SITTING OUTSIDE AFTER SNOWSTORM, CAR WAS STARTED AND AS I PULLED OUT OF THE PARKING SPOT, SEVERAL LIGHTS (BRAKE, TSC, ABS) APPEARED ON DASHBOARD. ONCE I BEGAN DRIVING ON THE SLIPPERY ROAD SURFACE, THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKES NO LONGER FUNCTIONED AS THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY, LEADING TO INCREASED SLIDING. THIS SEEMS LIKE A SEVERE SAFETY ISSUE. THE LIGHTS WENT OUT AFTER DRIVING FOR SEVERAL MILES, BUT RE-APPEARED SPORADICALLY OVER THE REST OF THE WINTER. *TR

I, LIKE MANY OTHERS LOCATED IN COLD CLIMATES, SEEM TO HAVE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM. WHILE ATTEMPTING TO STOP AN ODD GRINDING, SOMETHING-ENGAGING, MOTORIZED SOUND COME FROM THE BRAKES FOLLOWED BY VERY SOFT, EXTENDED BRAKING AND THE 'ABS' AND 'BRAKE LIGHTS' COMING ON. DURING THE COLD MONTHS, THE LIGHTS SIMPLY NEVER GO OFF AND THIS ISSUE HAPPENS SPORADICALLY. NOW THAT IT IS WARMER, THE LIGHTS ARE ON AND OFF ALL THE TIME AND THE SOUNDS AND GRINDING HAPPEN A DOZEN TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF A 15 MILE DRIVE. I'VE LEARNED TO EXPECT IT AND AS SOON AS I HEAR THE ENGAGING NOISE WHILE IN MOTION; I KNOW THE BRAKING MAY BECOME DIFFICULT. THE ISSUE SO FAR HAS DISAPPEARED EVERY EARLY-SUMMER ONLY TO RETURN, AS EXPECTED, EVERY LATE-FALL. IT FIRST BEGAN SEVERAL YEARS AND CONTINUES TO OCCUR. FROM WHAT I HAVE READ, THIS APPEARS TO BE AN ISSUE REGARDING FAULTY REAR-HUB SENSORS AND/OR WIRING HARNESSES, AND THEY ARE NOT ISOLATED INCIDENTS. TOYOTA/SCION IS SURELY AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS I DON'T HAVE UPWARDS OF $1200 TO FIX THIS ISSUE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT FALLS UPON ME TO DO THIS, EITHER. IT'S A CLEAR MANUFACTURING/PART DEFECT AND IT REALLY WOULD BE GREAT IF TOYOTA/SCION STEPPED UP AND WERE PROACTIVE BECUASE THIS ISSUE WILL GET SOMEONE SERIOUSLY HURT OR KILLED, IF IT HASN'T ALREADY.

WHENEVER I USE THE BRAKES IN MY CAR, THEY LOCK UP. THERE'S BEEN MANY TIMES WHEN I'M APPROACHING A STOP SIGN/LIGHT AND I GET EXTREMELY CLOSE TO HITTING A CAR BECAUSE MY CAR IS ACTING UP, ITS BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF. MY ABS AND BRAKES LIGHT WERE ALSO ON. I TOOK MY CAR INTO TOYOTA AS SOON AS THE LIGHTS STARTED POPPING UP, AND THEY SAID IT WAS THAT THE WIRING IN MY CAR WAS SETTING OFF RANDOM LIGHTS, NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH MY BRAKES; IT WASN'T UNDER THEIR WARRANTY, SO THEY WANTED TO CHARGE ME $1,000+ TO FIX IT. I DECLINED. A MONTH AFTER MY VISIT, EVERY TIME I USE MY BRAKES, IT MAKES A WEIRD CLICKING NOISE, PEOPLE SAY IT'S MY ANTI LOCKS KICKING. NO CLUE WHY SOMETHING SO SERIOUS ISN'T UNDER RECALL. *TR

ABS AND BRAKE LIGHTS COME ON IN CAR, ALONG WITH CODE C0210. DIAGNOSIS INDICATES THAT BRAKES ARE FUNCTIONAL, BUT ABS IS NOT FUNCTIONAL. HAVE ALREADY HAD HUBS WITH SENSORS REPLACED ONCE AND, WHEN THE PROBLEM RECURRED, HAD THE HARNESS FOR THE RIGHT REAR SPEED SENSOR REPLACED. BASED UPON INTERNET SEARCHES AND SEARCHES OF THE COMPLAINTS DATABASE, THIS APPEARS TO BE A COMMON PROBLEM WITH THIS MODEL AND YEAR OF THE SCION XD. SINCE ABS FUNCTIONALITY IS COMPROMISED, THIS REPRESENTS A SAFETY CONCERN. *TR

THE ABS WARNING LIGHT AND BRAKE WARNING LIGHT CAME ON WHILE DRIVING MY 2008 SCION XD, THE ABS STOPPED WORKING. EMERGENCY BRAKE AND BRAKES SEEM TO BE WORKING NORMALLY . MY LOCAL TOYOTA/SCION DEALER DIAGNOSED THE PROBLEM AS TWO FAULTY REAR WHEEL SENSORS, INCLUDING ONE THAT WAS REPLACED TWO YEARS AGO (JAN. 2011) FOR THE SAME REASON. ALL FAILURES OCCURRED DURING BELOW FREEZING/ HEAVY SNOW CONDITIONS - EXACTLY THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH ONE WOULD NEED ABS. PROPOSED REPAIR INCLUDES REPLACING THE WIRE HARNESS/SENSOR, BUT NO MEASURES TO PROTECT THE NEW PARTS FROM FREEZING OR CORROSIVE ROAD DEBRIS. REPAIR ESTIMATE IS APPROXIMATELY $1,200. MANY OTHER SCION XD OWNERS HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS IDENTICAL PROBLEM. SOME SCION OWNERS CANNOT AFFORD THIS REPAIR AND WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE THEIR VEHICLES WITH INACTIVE ABS SYSTEMS, AS I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT I COULD DO TO SAVE MONEY. IT APPEARS THAT TOYOTA IS NOT ADDRESSING THIS PROBLEM WITH A REPAIR BULLETIN OR REPLACEMENT PARTS FOR PARTS THAT WERE NOT DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND THE VERY WEATHER CONDITIONS IN WHICH THEY ARE NEEDED MOST, OR ISSUING A RECALL TO HELP COVER THE COST TO REMEDY THIS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS DEFECT WHEN THE PARTS FAIL. VERY DISAPPOINTING FOR WHAT HAS OTHERWISE BEEN AN EXCELLENT VALUE AND RELIABLE VEHICLE. *TR

THE ABS WARNING LIGHT AND BRAKE WARNING LIGHT CAME ON WHILE DRIVING INDICATING A PROBLEM WITH THE BRAKING SYSTEM. OUR LOCAL TOYOTA/SCION DEALER DIAGNOSED THE PROBLEM AS FAULTY REAR WHEEL SENSORS AND CORRODED WIRING. PROPOSED REPAIR INCLUDES REPLACING BOTH REAR HUBS AND REPLACING THE WIRE HARNESS THAT IS CONNECTED TO THE FAULTY HUBS. REPAIR COSTS APPROXIMATE $1,500. MANY OTHER 2008 SCION XD OWNERS HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS IDENTICAL PROBLEM. SOME SCION OWNERS CANNOT AFFORD THIS REPAIR AND WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE THEIR VEHICLES WITH INACTIVE ABS SYSTEMS. TOYOTA REFUSES TO ISSUE A RECALL TO REMEDY THIS SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS DEFECT. *TR

ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM ENGAGED WHILE TRAVELING AT LOW SPEED AND APPLYING THE BRAKES CAUSING THE VEHICLE TO CONTINUE THROUGH AN INTERSECTION. ABS AND BRAKE WARNING LIGHT CAME ON AFTER DRIVING THE VEHICLE FOR SEVERAL MORE MILES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHO SAID BOTH REAR WHEEL SPEED SENSORS HAVE CORRODED AND NEED TO BE REPLACED ALONG WITH THE WIRES. SINCE BOTH REAR WHEEL SENSORS FAILED AT THE SAME TIME, THIS DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A RANDOM PART ISSUE BUT SEEMS TO BE A DESIGN ISSUE. TOYOTA IS AWARE OF THIS ISSUE AND HAS ISSUE A SERVICE BULLETIN REGARDING THIS SAME FAILURE ON THE YARIS MODEL. *TR