2004 Pontiac Grand Prix

I OWN A 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX GT2. I PURCHASED THE VEHICLE USED WITH 12,000 MILES ON IT. MY VEHICLE HAD NO PREVIOUS OWNERS EXCEPT GM ON THE TITLE DUE TO ITS STATUS AS A DEMONSTRATOR. I DROVE THIS CAR UP UNTIL 56,487 MILES WHEN THE VEHICLE WAS UNABLE TO SHIFT PROPERLY FROM A STOP. A SEVERE SHUDDER IN FIRST GEAR FOLLOWED BY A MISSED SHIFT IN SECOND RENDERED THE VEHICLE ALMOST PARALYZED. THE VEHICLE WAS SERVICED AT A LOCAL PONTIAC DEALERSHIP WERE I WAS INFORMED THAT THE INPUT CLUTCH PISTON SEAL WAS BLOWN OUT AS WELL AS SEVERE DAMAGE TO THE CLUTCHES. I HAD NO OTHER OPTION BUT TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE TRANSMISSION WHICH COST ME $2,690.00. MY VEHICLE HAS THE 4T65E AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION WHICH IS COMMON AMONG GM 3800 ENGINE VEHICLES. FURTHER RESEARCH HAS SHOWN A COMMON THEME AMONG THESE TRANSMISSIONS. MOST REPORTS OF TRANSMISSION TROUBLES INVOLVING THE 4T65E CLAIM TO HAVE SHIFTING PROBLEMS IN FIRST AND SECOND GEAR WHICH SEEM TO OCCUR AROUND THE 60,000 MILE RANGE. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX. WHILE DRIVING 35 MPH, THE CONTACT FELT A KNOCKING CLICK WHEN TURNING RIGHT OR LEFT. THE STEERING COLUMN WAS REPLACED FOR THE FIRST FAILURE, BUT THE FAILURE HAS RECURRED. THE DEALER WAS UNABLE TO DUPLICATE THE FAILURE AND STATED THAT A DIAGNOSTIC WOULD COST $70. THE MANUFACTURER STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS OUT OF WARRANTY AND THE COMPONENT WAS PREVIOUSLY REPLACED, SO THEY COULD NOT ASSIST. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 32,900 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 32,000. UPDATED 01/09/08.*LJ UPDATED 12/12/07 *TR

I'VE READ TWO OTHER COMPLAINTS (10187874 - 10154674) IN REGARDS TO THE NO-START. I'VE HAD CONCERNS WITH THIS FOR OVER A YEAR. RARELY, THE CAR WILL START FINE. MOSTLY, I FOUND THAT I MUST GIVE ACCELERATION AT START-UP FOR A SUCCESSFUL START. OTHERWISE, THE CAR WILL EITHER NOT CATCH OR IT'LL JERK AND STALL OUT. OTHER THAN THIS, THE CAR IS FINE. IT'S ANNOYING, BUT I'VE GROWN USED TO IT SINCE IT'S ON AN EVERY-DAY LEVEL. I LIVE IN TN, SO WE ARE IN RELATIVELY WARM CLIMATE. IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF WEATHER. I CONTACTED MY LOCAL PONTIAC RETAIL FACILITY AND THEY ADVISED ME THEY HAVE TWO OTHER GP'S WITH THE SAME ISSUE. THEY SAID IT MAY BE THE FUEL PUMP GOING OUT. I HAVEN'T TAKEN IT IN YET. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX. WHILE DRIVING 30 MPH IN RAINY CONDITIONS, SMOKE APPEARED FROM THE VENTS APPROXIMATELY TWO MINUTES AFTER THE DEFOGGER WAS ACTIVATED. THERE WERE NO WARNING LIGHTS ILLUMINATED. THE CONTACT TURNED THE VEHICLE OFF FOR 20 MINUTES. WHEN HE RESTARTED IT, SMOKE BEGAN TO ENGULF THE VEHICLE. HE STATED THAT NONE OF THE COMPONENTS WORKED INSIDE THE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE DEALER AND THEY INFORMED HIM THAT THE A/C MOTOR MALFUNCTIONED AND MELTED, WHICH DESTROYED THE ELECTRICAL WIRING SYSTEM. THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED AND THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED. THE POWERTRAIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE 83,000.

SAME AS ANOTHER PERSON THAT REPORTED THIS RECENTLY. I HAVE A POOL OF WATER IN BOTH THE FRONT AND REAR PASSENGER AREAS AFTER HEAVY RAINS. I'M TAKING THE VEHICLE INTO THE BODY SHOP TOMORROW, BUT IT ALSO APPEARS TO BE THE PLASTIC PIECE COMING AWAY FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE WINDSHIELD, AND AS THE PREVIOUS PERSON THAT REPORTED THIS ALSO STATED, THE GUY AT OUR BODY SHOP SAID HE'S SEEN THIS WITH GRAND PRIX'S ALSO. *JB

THE CHROME WHEELS ( RIMS ) ARE PEELING. WENT FROM COSMETIC TO DRIVEABILITY ISSUE SINCE THE PEELING CHROME HAS AFFECTED THE BEAD AND/OR VALVE STEM SEALS. THE TIRES LEAK COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF AIR AT VARIOUS RATES. BROUGHT CAR TO DEALERSHIP ON JULY 25. RIMS ARRIVED AND SET APPOINTMENT FOR AUGUST 6. FOUR RIMS WITH TWO DIFFERENT STYLES WERE SENT. RIMS WERE RE-ORDERED AND PROMISED IN TWO WEEKS. HAVE NOT ARRIVED. GM WILL ONLY SUPPLY RE-CONDITIONED RIMS WHICH MEANS CUSTOMER MUST WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S OLD ONES TO BE RETURNED AND RECONDITIONED. UNACCEPTABLE THAT: 1. GM WILL NOT OFFER NEW PARTS. 2. THERE IS NO AVAILABLE STOCK. ALREADY COMPLAINED TO DEALERSHIP AND PONTIAC DIVISION. NO OTHER SOLUTION OFFERED. THE VEHICLE IS UNDER THE NEW CAR 3 YEAR/36,000 MILE WARRANTY. *TR

HUGE POOL OF WATER ON THE PASSENGER SIDE FLOOR, IN BOTH THE FRONT AND BACK. THE SHOP-VAC CANNOT GET IT ALL UP. CAUSE LOOKS TO BE BLACK HARD PLASTIC MOLDING AT THE BASE OF THE WINDSHIELD HAS LIFTED AWAY FROM THE WINDSHIELD. HEAVY RAINS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS HAS LEAD TO THIS DISCOVERY. LOCAL GM DEALER HAS SAID THEY HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. HAVE ADVISED ME NOT TO DRIVE THE CAR UNTIL THEY CAN SEE IT - THAT'S IN TWO DAYS. *TR

PURCHASED VEH IN O6, AS SOON AS I DROVE IT OFF THE LOT THE AIRBAG WARNING LITE CAME ON. CALLED DEALER THEY AGREED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, PRIOR TO APPOINTMENT I ALSO NOTICED THE HORN DIDN'T WORK. CAR IS SENT TO DEALER TO BE LOOKED AT THEY SAID THAT THE LF AIRBAG SENSOR WAS BAD. THEY REPLACED IT AND CLAIMED TO HAVE FIXED THE HORN AS WELL. THE HORN STILL DON'T WORK THE STRIKE POSITION SEEMS TO MOVE AROUND AND ONLY WORKS ONCE AND A WHILE. AND NOW ONLY 2 MONTHS AFTER REPLACEING THE SENSOR THE LITE IS BACK ON. TOOK IT BACK AND THEY HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHY.

SAME SYMPTOM DESCRIPTION AS COMPLAINT # 10154674. I AM IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND PURCHASED A VEHICLE IN NOVEMBER 2006. I WAITED OUT WINTER AND RAIN SEASON TO SEE IF PROBLEM WOULD SUBSIDE, IT DID NOT, AND HAS INCREASED IN FREQUENCY. INITIALLY REPAIR SHOP COULD NOT IDENTIFY OR REPLICATE AFTER EXAM OF MULTI COMPONENTS, INCLUDING FUEL SYSTEMS AND RUNNING COMPUTER DIAGNOSTICS IN MAY 2007. AFTER 2 DAYS AND REPLICATING ONCE THEY REPROGRAMMED THE PCM FOR UPDATE AND PERFORMED CRANK SENSOR LEARNING/. REPAIR PRICE CHANGED FROM QUOTE AND I RENEGOTIATED DOWN TO $109. PROBLEM NOT REMEDIED OCCURRING 3X THE SAME EVENING AND CONTINUED MULTIPLE TIMES DAILY. INCIDENTS SPANNED 7 MONTHS, AND EASILY, NOT EXAGGERATING, OVER 120 OCCURRENCES ALL WEATHER, TEMPERATURES AND TIME OF DAY. STALLED AND STUTTERED GETTING HARDER AND UP TO 7 ATTEMPTS TO GET CAR TO START AFTER PRESSING ACCELERATOR. *AK