2009 Pontiac G8

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 PONTIAC G8. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 55 MPH ATTEMPTING TO ENGAGE THE BRAKES, THE VEHICLE JERKED AND VEERED TO THE LEFT WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER. THE TECHNICIAN DIAGNOSED THAT THE ROTORS AND CALIPERS NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. HOWEVER, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 36,000. UPDATED 12/19/14*CN UPDATED 09/28/2015*JS

OUR 2009 PONTIAC G8 GT WITH 54,000 MILES STARTING HAVING THE AIR BAG FAULT LIGHT SHOW UP DURING STARTUP OF THE VEHICLE. THIS FAULT STAYED ILLUMINATED AT ALL TIMES. I RESEARCHED THIS FAULT ON THE INTERNET, INCLUDING PONTIAC FORUMS, AND FOUND THAT THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OTHER PONTIAC G8 OWNERS THAT HAVE HAD A SIMILAR FAULT. I ALSO FOUND ON THE INTERNET THAT THERE WAS A LARGE AMOUNT OF GM PRODUCTS THAT HAS THE SAME FAULT. I FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE FINDINGS ON THE INTERNET STATED THAT THE ISSUE WAS THE PASSENGER PRESENCE MODULE AND/OR SENSOR. ON 4-22-14, WE TOOK OUR G8 TO THE DEALERSHIP FOR ANALYSIS. THE DEALERSHIP FOUND THAT THE FAILURE WAS THE PASSENGER PRESENCE MODULE (PN#92225595) AND PASSENGER PRESENCE SENSOR (PN#92220398). THE AIR BAGS IN THE VEHICLE WILL NOT FUNCTION WITH THIS CURRENT FAULT. THE COST TO REPAIR THE ISSUE QUOTED BY THE DEALERSHIP IS $1,193.94. I DECIDED TO SPEAK WITH GM CUSTOMER REPRESENTATIVE VIA PHONE. GM CUSTOMER SERVICE RESPONDED TO MY CONCERN WITH A NEGOTIATED COST DOWN TO $500 + TAX. I DO APPRECIATE THE REDUCTION IN COST BUT FEEL THAT THIS IS A KNOWN SAFETY ISSUE AND THAT THERE IS ALOT OF HISTORY ON THIS ISSUE SINCE 2007 (PER THE INTERNET RESEARCH) AND I FEEL THAT THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY. *TR

THE AIR BAG FAULT LIGHT CAME ON IN OUR 2009 PONTIAC G8. THE CAR HAS ONLY 41,000 MILES. WHY WOULD AIR BAG SYSTEM FAIL? IT HAS NO ACCIDENTS AND LOW MILES. TOOK TO DEALER "QUALITY CHEVROLET IN ESCONDIDO CALIFORNIA TO HAVE THE CODES READ AS MY READER WOULD NOT DISPLAY THEM. DEALER SAID THEY WOULD DIAGNOSE IT FOR $115.14. DEALER KEPT IT TWO DAYS AS THEY SAID THEY WERE TOO BUSY WITH GM IGNITION KEY RECALL AND DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO READ THE ERROR CODES. THE SECOND DAY, DEALER SAID "BAD NEWS", YOU WILL NEED TO PAY US AN ADDITIONAL $1,041.00 TO REPLACE THE PASSENGER SEAT PRESENCE MODULE. TOTAL WOULD BE $1,156.14. THEY SAID ALL OF THE AIR BAG SYSTEM WON'T WORK WHILE YOU HAVE THIS ERROR CODE. THIS IS CRAZY. A SAFETY SYSTEM LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT FAIL AND IT SHOULD NOT KILL ALL THE OTHER AIR BAGS. I ASKED DEALER FOR ERROR CODES AND PART NUMBER. THE ERROR CODES ARE U0170 LOSS COMMUNICATION WITH PASSENGER PRESENCE AND B0081 PASSENGER PRESENCE SYSTEM. THE PART NUMBER IS GM #92225595. I CHECKED THE INTERNET AND THE PRICE FOR NEW MODULE FROM A GM PARTS SELLER WITH 1 YEAR WARRANTY IS $262.50. I CHECKED THE WEB NHTSA AND OTHER SITES AND THIS FAILURE IS VERY COMMON FOR THIS PONTIAC G8 VEHICLE. IT SHOULD BE COVERED BY GM FOR FREE AS A RECALL OR WARRANTY. PLUS, IT SHOULD NOT DISABLE ALL THE OTHER AIR BAGS IN THE VEHICLE. THIS IS NEGLIGENT AND UNSAFE. PLUS, THE DEALER IS TAKING HUGE PROFIT ON REPLACEMENT FEE. IT TOOK ME 10 MINUTES TO REMOVE THE MODULE FROM UNDER THE PASSENGER SEAT. WHY WOULD THE DEALER "QUALITY CHEVROLET IN ESCONDIDO CALIFORNIA" BE SO GREEDY ON SAFETY ITEM AND CHARGE $1,156.14 FOR REPLACING A $262.50 PART THAT TAKES ONLY 10 MINUTES TO REMOVE AND 10 MINUTES TO REPLACE AND 10 MINUTES TO CALIBRATE OR PROGRAM? THIS IS PURE GREED AND DEALER IS SIMPLY CAPITALIZING ON THIS MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE. *TR

AIR BAG FAULT OCCURRED AND DISPLAYED IN TWO PLACES ON MY DASH WHEN I STARTED MY CAR TO GO TO WORK. I HAD NOT DRIVEN THIS CAR IN A MONTH AND JUST A FEW WEEKS PRIOR TO THE LAST TIME IT WAS DRIVEN I HAD ANOTHER AIRBAG RECALL PERFORMED. TOOK CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP TO FIND OUT THE PASSENGER SENSOR MODULE HAD A SHORT CIRCUIT IN IT. UNKNOWN TO ME ALL THE VEHICLE AIRBAGS WERE DISABLED WITH THIS FAULT PER THE SERVICE TECH. IT SEEMS TERRIBLE UNSAFE TO DISABLE ALL AIRBAGS FOR A PASSENGER SENSING MODULE. IT SHOULD FAIL ACTIVE RATHER THAN FAIL PASSIVE FOR SAFETY. I HAVE ALSO FOUND NUMEROUS REPORTS OF THIS MODULE FAILING NEAR THE TIME OF WARRANTY EXPIRATION NOT NECESSARILY AFTER. THOUGH MINE WAS AFTER BY DATE NOT MILEAGE. *TR

I AM THE 2ND OWNER OF THIS VEHICLE I BOUGHT IT WITH 20,000 MILES AND NOW IT HAS 41,000. THE CAR HAS HAD 5 RECALLS SINCE I HAVE OWNED IT WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS NOT A BAD THING CAUSE THEY ARE FIXING THE PROBLEMS,BUT WHEN THE PROBLEM KEEPS EXISTING AND GM SAYS "ILL GIVE YOU A YEAR FREE MAINTENANCE FOR THE TROUBLE" COME ON, I HAVE 3 KIDS THAT RIDE IN THE CAR,AND PARTS THAT DON'T BELONG ON THE CAR BECAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE THEM ANYMORE, (WIRING HARNESS) THE ENGINE LIGHT KEEPS COMING ON AND NOW I HAVE NO HIGH BEAMS , GM RESPONSE TO THAT WAS "WE WILL PUT NEW BULBS IN FOR YOU TO SEE IF THAT WORKS" HELLO WHEN BOTH LIGHTS GO OUT THE SAME TIME AND THE ENGINE LIGHT COMES ON I MAY NOT BE AN EXPERT BUT I CAN SAY I THINK THERE JUST MIGHT BE A PROBLEM, BUT NOT TO GM. I PUT THE RISK OF 3 KIDS LIVES EVERYDAY I DRIVE THE CAR WONDERING IF THE CAR IS GOING TO GET ME FROM POINT A TO POINT B BECAUSE THE WIRING HARNESS IS JUST PIECES OF OTHER CARS PUT TOGETHER TO MAKE IT WORK. WITH MY CAR IN THE SHOP AGAIN NOW AS WE SPEAK, GM DOES NOT CARE ABOUT SAFETY OF MY KIDS OR MYSELF,THE CAR DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON THE ROAD BUT IM NOT THE ORIGINAL OWNER AND THEY DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BUT OFFER ME A YEAR FREE MAINTENANCE, IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD OFFER IF I NEEDED MY OIL CHANGED OR TIRES ROTATED, BUT THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM, ALL 10 RECALLS ON THE CAR HAVE BEEN ELECTRICAL AND WITH THE TRANSMISSION. MY QUESTION TO GM IS WHY SELL A CAR YOU CANNOT FIX WITH THE RIGHT PARTS OR MAKE IT RIGHT BY TAKING THE CAR BACK ???? I AM A VERY UNHAPPY CUSTOMER!!! *TR

VEHICLE WILL SUDDENLY THROW ABS/TRACTION CONTROL/BRAKE SYSTEM/AIRBAGS FAILURE NOTICES; VEHICLE THEN GOES INTO LIMP MODE AND THE TRANSMISSION LOCKS INTO FIRST GEAR. HAS OCCURRED 3 TIMES, DEALERSHIP UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE OR REPAIR. THEY HAVE CLEARED ALL MIL/DTC CODES AND RE-FLASHED ECM 3 TIMES. THE PROBLEM HAS OCCURRED ONCE ON THE INTERSTATE IN HEAVY TRAFFIC AT 70MPH AND TWICE ON CITY STREETS IN RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, WITH SIGNIFICANT CHANCE FOR ACCIDENT/CRASH. WHEN THE VEHICLE EXHIBITS THIS CONDITION, LOSS OF CONTROL OCCURS, AS ENGINE DELIVERS NO POWER TO TRANSMISSION AND CAR IS LIMITED TO 25MPH MAXIMUM SPEED. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 PONTIAC G8. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHEN YOU START THE ENGINE THE DASHBOARD LIGHTS AND THE ENGINE SHUTS DOWN. THE CONTACT HAS EXPERIENCED THE PROBLEM MULTIPLE TIMES. THE CONTACT HAS SPOKE WITH BOTH THE MANUFACTURER AND THE DEALER. BOTH STATED THAT THEY CAN NOT RESOLVE THE PROBLEM UNTIL THE PROBLEM CAN BE DUPLICATED. THE DEALER DID INSPECT THE VEHICLE AND THEY DID NOT FIND ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE VEHICLE'S COMPUTER. THE LAST TIME THE PROBLEM HAPPENED WAS LAST WEEK AND STILL HAD NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT HE HAS TO KEEP RESTARTING THE VEHICLE MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE THE ENGINE AND THE DASHBOARD LIGHTS KEEP SHUTTING OFF, WHICH PREVENTS HIM FROM DRIVING AT NIGHT. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 4400 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 5444.