2012 Honda Pilot

28000 MI ESTIMATE. COMPLAINT REPORT JUSTIFICATION- RESEARCH INDICATES HONDA IS RECALLING VEHICLES FOR FUEL SYSTEM ERRORS INCLUDING POTENTIAL FIRES. VEHICLE: HONDA PILOT 2012 "CHECK FUEL CAP" INDICATOR LIGHT HAS BEEN REPORTED PREVIOUSLY TO DEALERSHIP. DEALERSHIP: FIRST TEXAS HONDA, 3400 STECK, AUSTIN, TX, I REPORTED THE "CHECK FUEL CAP" INDICATOR LIGHT DURING PRIOR SERVICE APPOINTMENTS FOR STANDARD SERVICES SUCH AS TIRE ROTATE, OIL CHNG ETC. DEALERSHIP SERVICE DEPARTMENT ATTENDING STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT I GET A NEW FUEL CAP. 12-8-2012 - I TOOK VEHICLE TO DEALERSHIP FOR NEW FUEL CAP. HEAD SERVICE MANAGER RECOMMENDED AUDIT OF FUEL SYSTEM SAYING THAT THE "CHECK FUEL CAP" INDICATOR DOES NOT PERTAIN JUST TO THE CAP BUT TO THE ENTIRE FUEL SYSTEM. APPOINTMENT SCHEDULED FOR 12-14-2012. 12-14-2012 - VEHICLE TAKEN TO DEALERSHIP. 12-15-2012 - RECEIVED A CALL THAT THE GAS CAP WAS NOT ON PROPERLY AND CAP TETHER WAS WRAPPED AROUND CAP. I DISPUTED LEAVING THE CAP IN LOOSE CONDITION AND STATED THAT IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN LEFT LOOSE BY A TECHNICIAN. 12-15-2012 - PICKED UP VEHICLE. INVOICE ODOMETER IN: 31646. SERVICE INVOICE C51253 WRITTEN UP AS: (1) CONCERN 51 CUSTOMER STATES LOOSE FUEL CAP LIGHT COMES ON AND GOES OFF. PER CHECK FOR FUEL LEAKING. (2) CAUSE GAS CAP LOOSE, REPLACED GAS CAP PER JEFF SMITH. (3) CORRECTION - PERFORMED EVAL FUNCTION TEXT, VEHICLE IS OPERATING PROPERLY. (4) COMMENT - 67D PER JEFF S __/ RICHARD TR__SEE HARD COPY 12-15-12 PART NO HON 17670-TR0-A11. QUESTIONS SEE RICHARD TR__. COMPLAINT JUSTIFICATION RESULT: PICKED UP VEHICLE AFTER 5:00 PM PRIOR TO DEALERSHIP 6:00 PM CLOSING. RETURNED HOME. ODOMETER IN: 31677. "CHECK FUEL CAP" INDICATOR LIGHT WAS ON AT 31677. DUE TO HEAVY TRAFFIC, I DO NOT KNOW MILEAGE WHEN INDICATOR CAME ON. 12-16-2012 - 10:15 AM COLD STARTED VEHICLE AT ODOMETER IN: 31677. "CHECK FUEL CAP" INDICATOR LIGHT CAME ON IMMEDIATELY. *TR

PLEASE, PLEASE BACK OFF ON YOUR HEAD REST REQUIREMENTS FOR SAFETY. PLEASE ALLOW THE CONSUMER TO CHOOSE THE POSITION OF THE HEAD REST. NOT ONLY HONDA, BUT FORD, GM, CHRYSLER, ALL MANUFACTURERS ARE CREATING VERY PAINFUL CAR SEATS SINCE 2009 DUE TO THIS AWFUL HEADREST REQUIREMENT. SEATBELTS ARE A LAW, BUT I CHOOSE TO WEAR THEM. MOTORCYCLE HELMETS ARE NO LONGER A LAW, BUT I CHOOSE TO WEAR THEM. NOW LET ME CHOOSE MY HEADREST POSITION. I THINK THESE NEW DESIGNS ARE GOING TO CAUSE FAR MORE INJURIES AND INSURANCE CLAIMS FROM PEOPLE HAVING THEIR HEADS COCKED FORWARD, IN A FORCED IMPROPER POSTURE. I HAD MIGRAINES DUE TO MY HEADREST BEFORE I RESOLVED THIS ISSUE IN MY CAR BY MAKING MODIFICATIONS. I SIT WITH PROPER POSTURE AND MY HEAD IS FORCED FORWARD. THE ONLY CHOICE I HAD WAS TO SIT IMPROPERLY IN ORDER TO TRY TO AVOID THE TERRIBLE DISCOMFORT THIS NEW LAW FORCES ON ME. PLEASE CHANGE THIS LAW. *TR

ENGINE HAS A FINE VIBRATION AROUND 35-45 MILES THAT DISAPPEARS WITH EITHER ACCELERATION OR DECELERATION. THE VIBRATION CAN BE FELT NOT ONLY BY THE DRIVER BUT ALSO THE PASSENGERS, ENOUGH TO SHAKE A BOBBLEHEAD ON THE CONSOLE. IT SEEMS THAT IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRANSMISSION AS IF THE TRANSMISSION IS NOT SHIFTING AND STALLING. AS SOON AS IT SHIFTS OR THE SPEED CHANGES IT DISAPPEARS. ANOTHER ISSUE IS A OCCASIONAL VERY HARD DOWNSHIFTING BY THE TRANSMISSION, HARD ENOUGH TO MOVE EVERYONE IN THE VEHICLE. THE SYMPTOMS WERE PRESENT THEY DAY THE VEHICLE WAS DELIVERED AND CHECKED BY THE DEALER AND REPORTED NO ISSUES. NOW THE VEHICLE IS ABOUT 11,000 MILES AND STILL WITH THE SAME ISSUES. *TR

MY WIFE PULLED THE VEHICLE INTO OUR DRIVEWAY AND EXITED THE CAR JUST A SHE NOTICED WHITE SMOKE COMING OUT FROM UNDER THE HOOD. SHE CALLED ME OUT OF THE HOUSE TO LOOK AND I SAW THERE WAS A FIRE IN THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT. I TRIED TO PUT IT OUT WITH A FIRE EXTINGUISHER BUT IT SPREAD TOO FAST. THE END RESULT IS THE ENTIRE VEHICLE WAS BURNT WITH NOT MUCH LEFT. I AM ASSUMING IT WAS SOMETHING ELECTRICAL DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE INITIAL SMOKE AND THE LOCATION OF THE FIRE ORIGINS. *TR

PURCHASED THE VEHICLE ON 9/10/12. OVER THE NEXT WEEK, NOTICED THAT BRAKE PEDAL TRAVEL WAS EXCESSIVE AND THE FEEL WAS SOFT - LIKE THERE WAS AIR SOMEWHERE IN THE BRAKES LINES. TOOK THE VEHICLE BACK TO THE DEALERSHIP. THE SERVICE MANAGER DROVE THE CAR AND THEN INDICATED THAT HE HAD RECEIVED SIMILAR COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER CUSTOMERS; THAT ON SOME OF THE OTHER VEHICLES WITH THE SAME COMPLAINT, THEY HAD BLED THE BRAKE SYSTEM WITH NO RESULTANT IMPROVEMENT; THAT MY PARTICULAR VEHICLE WAS NOT ABNORMAL IN THIS REGARD; AND THAT HONDA HAD NOT ISSUED ANY SERVICE BULLETINS ON THIS SUBJECT TO DATE. WROTE A COMPLAINT ON THIS TO HONDA USA, CUSTOMER SERVICE ON 10-09-12. RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM A HONDA USA CUSTOMER SERVICE CASE MANAGER ON 10-26-12 TO SAY THAT THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM ON OTHER 2012 HONDA PILOT VEHICLES, THAT THEY HAD CONTACTED THE DEALERSHIP WHERE I PURCHASED THE VEHICLE AND CONCLUDED THAT MY VEHICLE WAS OPERATING PER DESIGN, AND THAT IF I WAS UNSATISFIED I SHOULD CONTACT THE LOCAL HONDA DISTRICT PARTS/SERVICE MANAGER. WILL ATTEMPT TO DO THIS NEXT WEEK, BUT THIS SOUNDS BOGUS TO ME SINCE THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO OTHER NHTSA COMPLAINTS ALREADY ON THE SAME ISSUE. *TR

WHEN ACCELERATING FROM A LOW SPEED, SUCH AS ENTERING A PARKING LOT FROM THE ROADWAY OR ENTERING A ROADWAY FROM A PARKING LOT, THE ENGINE DOES NOT RESPOND TO MY PRESSING ON THE ACCELERATOR. AFTER A FEW SECONDS, THE CAR LURCHES FORWARD. THIS ONLY HAPPENS WHEN ACCELERATING FROM A VERY LOW SPEED, ABOUT 10 MPH. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER TWICE AND AN ACCELERATOR MODULE WAS REPLACED, BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO CHANGE, THE PROBLEM STILL EXISTS. THE DANGER IS VERY SERIOUS WHEN TRYING TO ENTER THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC FROM A LOT OR SIDE STREET. VERY OFTEN, IT TAKES MUCH TOO LONG TO REACH THE SPEED OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC. THE DEALER EXPLAINED THAT THERE IS NO LONGER A CABLE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL AND THE ENGINE, IT IS NOW "FLY BY WIRE". THERE SEEMS TO BE A DISCONNECT BETWEEN MY PRESSING THE ACCELERATOR AT A LOW SPEED AND THE ENGINE RESPONDING IMMEDIATELY. *TR

2012 HONDA PILOT MAKING AN ANNOYING HUMMING VIBRATION NOISE WHEN THE A/C OR ITS COMPRESSION STARTS. I'VE BRING IT IN FOR DEALERS TOTAL OF FOUR TIMES, THEY HAVE CHANGE THE AC COMPRESSOR BUT PROBLEM DID NOT GO AWAY, I HAVE CONTACT HONDA CUSTOMER RELATIONS BUT ITS BEEN ALMOST A YEAR BUT NO SOLUTIONS TO MY ISSUES, ALL THEY TELL ME IS TO WAIT FOR THE PROBLEM IS BEING WORK ON, THEN I ASK FOR TIME FRAME THEY SAY IT MIGHT BE SOONER BUT NO MORE THEN ANOTHER YEAR. PLEASE HELP I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO, THE LAST TIME I BRING THE CAR IN DEALER SAY THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO FIX IT THEN TELL ME TO GO HOME AND WAIT FOR HONDA HOTLINE TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO, NOW I HAVE TO DEAL WITH AC AND HEAT EVERYTIME I DRIVE THE CAR PLEASE HELP. *TR

I RECENTLY PURCHASED A 2012 HONDA PILOT TO REPLACE A 2010 PILOT THAT HAD SOME UNCHARACTERISTIC ISSUES. WEEKS AFTER DRIVING IT OFF THE LOT, I BEGAN TO NOTICE A NOISE WHEN THE AC FAN KICKED ON. I TOOK THE PILOT TO THE DEALERSHIP AND WAS TOLD THIS WAS JUST THE SOUND THE FAN MAKES WHEN IT KICKS ON. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS ISSUE, THEY KNOW THIS SOUND IS ANYTHING BUT NORMAL. IT IS A QUITE LOUD WHINING NOISE THAT CHANGES IT'S PITCH WHILE YOU ARE SITTING IDOL WITH THE AC ON. A SECOND ISSUE I HAVE SEEN IS THE VIBRATION WHEN DRIVING AT A CONSTANT SPEED. THE PILOT DRIVES WELL WHEN INCREASING OR DECREASING SPEED, BUT A CONSTANT SPEED CAUSES A VIBRATION SIMILAR TO THAT OF A MANUAL TRANSMISSION VEHICLE RUNNING IN TOO HIGH OF GEAR. THIS ISSUE IS TERRIBLY ANNOYING AND THE ONLY WAY TO AVOID IS TO CONSTANTLY CHANGE YOUR SPEED. BOTH OF THE ISSUES CAN BE FOUND IN REPORTS ONLINE WITH A CONSISTENT ANSWER: HONDA KNOWS ABOUT THE ISSUES BUT HAS NO CURRENT FIX. I WISH I HAD NEVER BOUGHT THIS VEHICLE. TWO PILOTS AT THIS POINT AND NO LUCK. THERE NEEDS TO BE A RECALL ON THESE ISSUES AND SUPPORT FROM HONDA. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2012 HONDA PILOT. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING AT VARIOUS SPEEDS AND ATTEMPTING TO ACCELERATE, THE VEHICLE HESITATED AND LUNGED FORWARD ABNORMALLY. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHO WAS UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 200 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 55,000.

THIS IS FIRST SUMMER FOR MY BRAND NEW HONDA PILOT 2012 LX CAR AND I NOTICE WHEN AC IN ON AND CAR IS NOT MOVING THERE IS SOME KIND OF MOANING VERY LOUD NOISE COMING FROM THE ENGINE. I TOOK MY CAR TO THE DEALER FROM WHERE I PURCHASED THIS VEHICLE. I WAS INFORMED THAT HONDA MOTORS IS AWARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE IN 2012 PILOT. I AM VERY SURPRISE AND UPSET THAT DESPITE HONDA MOTOR IS AWARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE, TILL THE DATE HONDA MOTORS DID NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. THE NOISE COMING IS VERY LOUD WHEN AC IS ON AND WHEN CAR IS NOT MOVING. THIS NOISE IS VERY ANNOYING. I AM HAVING MIGRAINE ALMOST EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF THIS VERY LOAD MOANING NOISE COMING FROM THE CAR. I ALREADY CONTACTED HONDA BUT THEY DID NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AS OF YET OR THERE IS NO RECALL. IT IS ALMOST BEEN ONE YEAR HONDA PILOT 2012 MODEL CAME OUT. PLEASE HELP URGENTLY. THANKS *TR