2014 Honda Odyssey

THE PAINT STARTED PEELING OFF IN THE AREA ABOVE THE WINDSHIELD IN THE 3RD YEAR OF OWNERSHIP. THE DEALERSHIP (HONDA OF CLEAR LAKE) DID NOT CONSIDER THAT AS WARRANTY WHEN THE ISSUE WAS POINTED OUT TO THEM. AN INDEPENDENT QUOTE FOR FIXING THE PAINT (PEARL WHITE) WAS WELL OVER $2000. GIVEN THAT THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW CAR, HONDA MUST OWN UP THE ISSUE AND DO THIS PAINT RELATED FIX FREE OF CHARGE, ON DOING A SEARCH ON ODYSSEY OWNERS FORA, I NOTED THAT THERE ARE SIMILAR ISSUES WITH THE MODEL.

MY 2014 HONDA ODYSSEY DOES NOT SHIFT PROPERLY MOST NOTABLY WHEN THE WEATHER IS VERY COLD BELOW 30 DEGREES AND FIRST THING IN THE AM. DRIVING DOWN THE STREET IT'S AS IF I'M STUCK IN FIRST GEAR AND THEN SUDDENLY THE CAR SHIFTS AND IT SOUNDS HORRIBLE AS IF THE TRANSMISSION CLUNKS VERY LOUD & THEN THE CAR JERKS FORWARD FROM THE CAR SHIFTING. THIS STARTED HAPPENING WHEN MY CAR WAS VERY NEW WITHIN THE FIRST 1-2 YEARS. I HAVE HAD IT INTO THE DEALERSHIP A FEW TIMES BECAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM AND THEY CAN NEVER SEEM TO GET IT TO 'THROW A CODE' FOR THEM. I EVEN LEFT IT THERE OVERNIGHT SO THAT THEY COULD DRIVE THE CAR COLD IN THE MORNING AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN FOR THEM. IT IS VERY RANDOM WHEN IT WILL HAPPEN? AFTER READING MANY HONDA ODYSSEY ONLINE CHATS EVERYONE SAYS IT'S THE COMPUTER AND YOU HAVE TO SHUT THE CAR OFF AND RESTART IT TO RESET THE COMPUTER. THIS HAS SEEMED TO WORK AND STOPS THE JERKY SHIFTING FOR THE TIME BEING. SO NOW WHEN MY CAR STARTS JERKING ME DOWN THE ROAD AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TRANSMISSION IS ABOUT TO FALL OUT I HAVE TO PULL OVER SOMEWHERE SAFE AND TURN THE CAR OFF FOR A MINUTE AND RESTART IT. I THOUGHT FOR SURE THERE WOULD BE A RECALL BY NOW BUT I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE REPORTED IT EARLIER. TO SUM IT UP THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE COMPUTERIZED SHIFTING MECHANISM THAT FOR SOME REASON WHEN IT'S COLD OUTSIDE KEEPS THE CAR IN LOW GEARS. I HAVE HAD MY CAR REGULARLY SERVICED AT THE HONDA DEALERSHIP AND EVERY TIME I'VE HAD MY TRANSMISSION FLUID CHANGED THEY COMMENT ON HOW DIRTY IT IS? I EXPLAINED THE PROBLEM TO THEM AND NO ONE CAN SOLVE IT?

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2014 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE DRIVING 65 MPH, THE CHECK ENGINE WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED AND THE VEHICLE STARTED TO LOSE SPEED. THE CONTACT PULLED THE VEHICLE OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THEN DRIVEN TO WALDORF HONDA (2450 CRAIN HWY, WALDORF, 20301). THE DEALER STATED THAT THE ENGINE FAILED AND NEEDED REPLACEMENT. INITIALLY, THE DEALER STATED THAT THE REPAIR WOULD BE COVERED, BUT LATER STATED THAT IT WAS NOT COVERED UNDER THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 75,000.

BRAKE ROTORS - DO I REALLY NEED TO GO INTO DETAIL? 54,000 MILES AND FRONT ROTORS HAVE BEEN RESURFACED TWICE AND NOW THE REAR NEED IT AS WELL. SEVERE SHIMMYING/VIBRATION DURING BRAKING. OBVIOUSLY THIS CAUSES INCONSISTENT REACTION FORCES BETWEEN THE TIRE AND ROAD SURFACE THAT COULD CAUSE UNPREDICTABLE VEHICLE RESPONSE! DOES A CHILD NEED TO LOOSE THEIR LIFE BEFORE A RECALL IS ISSUED? DOES ANYONE READ THESE COMPLAINTS? IS HONDA DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? HOW HAS THE NHTSA NOT PERFORMED AN INVESTIGATION ON THIS? COME GET MY VAN AND TRY IT OUT!

THE "STANDARD SEAT ASSEMBLY" AS DEFINED BY FIG-1A OF FMVSS 213 DEFINES SEAT/SEAT-BELT GEOMETRY SUCH THAT A SEATBELT BUCKLE SHALL NOT EXTEND BEYOND175MM (~6IN) FROM THE SEAT BIGHT. THE STANDARD SEEMS TO ALLOW CAR MANUFACTURERS TO UTILIZE SEAT BELT BUCKLE ASSEMBLIES ANYWHERE IN THE 0 TO 175MM RANGE FROM THE BIGHT. A BIGHT-TO-BUCKLE (B2B) DISTANCE OF 175MM MAKES IT DIFFICULT (OR IMPOSSIBLE) TO PROPERLY SECURE CHILD CAR SEATS, USING THE VEHICLE'S SEAT BELT, IF THE CHILD SEAT DEPTH IS SHALLOWER THAN 175MM. THIS HYPOTHESIS WAS DEVELOPED AFTER I WAS UNABLE TO PROPERLY SECURE A DIONO RADIAN RXT CAR SEAT (FORWARD FACING MODE) IN MY 2014 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE BUCKLES IN THE HONDA (SEE ATTACHED) APPEAR TO BE CLOSE TO THE 175MM THRESHOLD. HOWEVER, I WAS ABLE TO SECURE THE SAME DIONO SEAT IN MY 2007 AUDI A6 BECAUSE THE AUDI'S BUCKLES ARE FLUSH MOUNTED IN THE SEAT CUSHION (I.E. B2B OF ~0MM). I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS PROBLEM IS A "HONDA" PROBLEM, BUT A PROBLEM WITH THE LACK OF SPECIFICITY OF FMVSS-213 WRT HOW CHILD SEATS ARE TO BE TESTED. FMVSS 213 S6.1.2 SIMPLY STATES THAT THE "STANDARD SEAT ASSEMBLY" IS TO BE USED, AND MAKES NO MENTION OF ENSURING COMPATIBILITY OF FIT THROUGHOUT THE B2B RANGE. THE DIONO MANUAL (SEE PG-19, ATTACHED) INDICATES THAT THEIR SEATS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH "...ANCHOR POINTS FORWARD OF THE SEAT CREASE." I REVIEWED OTHER CHILD CAR SEAT MANUFACTURER INSTRUCTION MANUALS AND FOUND SIMILAR WARNINGS. WHILE THE HONDA SEAT BELTS CONTAIN FMVSS-209 CERTIFICATION TAGS, AND THE DIONO IS LABELED WITH FMVSS-213 TAGS, I BELIEVE THAT THESE TWO STANDARDS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE. RECOMMENDATIONS: (1)UPDATE "STANDARD SEAT ASSEMBLY" OF FMVSS-213 SUCH THAT B2B IS EXPLICITLY FIXED AT 175MM OR (2) FMVSS-209 MUST RESTRICT B2B< 25MM. FMVSS-209 S4.1.E ONLY SPECIFIES, "...BUCKLE OR BUCKLES READILY ACCESSIBLE TO THE OCCUPANT TO PERMIT HIS EASY & RAPID REMOVAL..."

WENT TO START THE THE VAN WOULDN'T START. PUSHED THE PUSH START AGAIN IT STARTED. GOT 10 MINUTES DOWN THE ROAD GOING ABOUT 30 MPH AND FELT A HARD JERK AND IT SHOOK A FEW TIMES AND THE STARTED IDLING HARD AND JERKED FORWARD . SOUNDED LIKE SOMETHING WAS GOING TO FALL OUT THE BOTTOM OF IT.NO SERVICE LIGHTS CAME ON. THEN GOT TO WORK SHUT IT OFF WHEN BACK OUT 10 MIN LATER AND THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND THE FCW LIGHT WAS ON FELT LIKE IT WAS STILL IDELING HARD. LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE. WONDER WHY HONDA IS NOT RECALLING THEM. I HAVE 61,300 MILES ON MINE. SO HOW MANY COMPLAINTS DOES A CAR COMPANY HAVE TO HAVE TO ISSUE A RECALL. THESE ARE NOT INEXPENSIVE VEHICLES. MAY HAVE TO LOOK INTO AN ATTORNEY. I CAN SEE WHERE THIS COULD BE A SAFETY ISSUE.