2013 Honda Odyssey

SERVICE BULLETIN 13-081. CEL (1/7/16) : CYLINDER 3 COIL R/R WITH SPARK PLUG ( OTHER SHOP - PAID $166.75 ) CEL (3/11/16) : P2422EVAP CANISTER CAME UP FOR SAME SYMPTOM (HONDA SAID CODE IS NOT P0303 - PAID $1722.86) CEL (7/18/17) : P0303 MISFIRE NO.3 CYLINDER (AUTOZONE) CEL (7/18/17 - 10 MIN FROM AUTOZONE) - P0353 NO3 CYLINDER IGNITION COIL CIRCUIT CAME UP (HONDA - PAID $255.41 ; HONDA SAID CODE WAS NOT BETWEEN P0301 TO P0304 SO I HAD TO PAY FOR IT - THEY DO NOT CARE WHAT AUTOZONE SAID ) RECEIVED SEVERAL TIMES WARNING WHEN I GO AND CHANGE ENGINE OIL FROM THE SHOP THAT I DO NOT HAVE ANY LEFT OVER OIL IN THE TANK. CEL (3/5/18) : FOUND OUT CAR HAS A MISFIRE ON CYLINDER 4 AND RING ON CYLINDER 4 IS LEAKING (OTHER SERVICE - GOT A SUGGESTION TO GO HONDA DEALER TO CHECK) MADE AN APPOINTMENT AT HONDA DEALER ON 3/8/18 WITHOUT CEL. TECH SAID NO CODE IN PCM FI SYSTEM. HE SAID HONDA CODE IS DIFFERENT FROM ANY OTHER SHOP, SO THEY ONLY FOLLOW WHAT HONDA'S COMPUTER SAYS.(MY OPINION IS THAT WHAT IF THEY DEBUG THEIR SOFTWARE AFTER LOST SETTLEMENT NOT TO SHOW CODE P0301 TO P0304 AND SHOW LITTLE DIFFERENT CODE FOR CUSTOMER'S RESPONSIBILITY - WHAT IF ALL OTHERS SAY P0303 ; ONLY HONDA COMES UP WITH DIFFERENT CODE) TECH SAID IF I DO NOT PAY FOR IT, HE DOES NOT EVEN LOOK AT IT. HE SAID HE DOES NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING ON THE ENGINE WHICH HAS 184,000 MILES ON IT IF HONDA OR I DO NOT PAY (IT'S 2013 ODYSSEY) HE TOLD ME THIS FOR THE OIL LEAKING WHICH EVERY CAR BURN A QUART OF OIL EVERY 1,000 MILE, SO I HAVE TO CHECK OIL LEVEL ALL THE TIME. HE SAID WHEN I HAVE ANOTHER CEL ON, JUST COME TO HONDA TO CHECK. (DO NOT GO ANY OTHER SHOP OR BRING CODE FROM OTHER SHOPS - HE IS NOT GOING TO AGREE ON ANY OTHER SHOP'S CODE OR COMMENT) MY WORRY IS THAT IF OTHER SHOPS SAY P0303 OR P0304, AND HONDA SAYS DIFFERENT CODE WHICH MAKE I PAY FOR IT. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, ESPECIALLY ABOVE 40 MPH, THERE WAS VIBRATION IN THE VEHICLE AND THE ECO WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER (APOSTOLAKIS HONDA, 3156 ELM RD, CORTLAND, OH 44410) WHERE IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS FUNCTIONING AS DESIGNED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 35,000. *TT *TR

CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AT 77250 MILES DEALERSHIPINSP CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AT A CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AT APPROXIMATELY 77230 MILES HONDA DEALERSHIP DIAGNOSED AS CODE P0302 MISFIRE FOUND FILED PLUG REPLACED PISTON RINGS ON CAL 1-3 AND REPLACED SPARK PLUGS 1-4 .THIS IS NOT THE WORK SCOPE CALLED FOR BY THE 2013 RECALL FOR PISTON PROBLEMS BUT COULD BE RELATED. I AM CONCERNED SINCE I AM THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF A2003 HONDA ODYSSEY WITH 372000 MILES ON IT WITHOUT REQUIRING ANY ENGINE WORK OTHER THAN MAINTENANCE SPECIFIED AND PERFORMED BY HONDA .I AM THANKFUL FOR THE ENGINE WARNING LIGHT HOWEVER THE SUDDEN STOPPING TO RESULTING FROM ITS FAILURE COULD CAUSE A SERIOUS OR FATAL ACCIDENT.R

CAR CONSUMES OIL-ENGINE MISSES AND STALLS-LIGHTS COME ON SIGNALING TRACTION. BACK SEAT SLIDES BACK AND FORTH CONSTANTLY- SOLUTION ON NHTSA WEBSIT IS RECALL NUMBER 13V382000 RECALL DATE 08/27/2013 COMPONENT ENGINE SUMMARY HONDA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2013 PILOT 2WD AND 4WD VEHICLES AND CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2013 ODYSSEY VEHICLES. DURING MANUFACTURING OF THE ENGINE PISTON, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE HEAT TREATMENT PROCESS WAS NOT PROPERLY APPLIED, RESULTING IN THE PISTON HAVING AN INSUFFICIENT HARDNESS LEVEL, MAKING IT MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO PREMATURE WEAR. CONSEQUENCE A WORN PISTON MAY SUDDENLY FAIL, CAUSING THE ENGINE TO STALL, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH. WHAT OWNERS SHOULD DO HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE ENGINE SHORT BLOCK FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON SEPTEMBER 16, 2013. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009. HONDA'S RECALL NUMBERS ARE JB4 (HONDA ODYSSEY) AND JB5 (HONDA PILOT). VICTORY HONDA REFUSES TO REPLACE SHORT BLOCK--THEY CLAIM MY VIN NUMBER DOES NOT MATCH COMPLAINT--CALLED HONDA AMERCAN AND THEY HUNG THE PHONE UP ON ME. CAR WAS BEING DRIVEN ON HWY 51 NEAR COVINGTON (SPEED LIMIT 55) I AM ALSO BEING TOLD BY VICTORY HONDA OF JACKSON TN THAT MY ODYSSEY FALLS UNDER SERVICE BULLETIN 13081 (PISTON RING REPLACEMENT) AND NOT UNDER BULLETIN SERVICE 13075 (SHORT LOCK REPLACEMENT). I AM TRYING TO VERIFY THIS AND CAN FIND NO SUPPORTING DATA.

THERE WAS A RECALL ON MY MODEL. THIS PISTON RINGS WEAR PREMATURELY AND CAUSE THE ENGINE TO STALL. THE OFFICIAL REPORT (RECALL #13V382000) LISTS ONE OF THE DANGERS AS THE FACT THAT THE ENGINE CAN STALL AND INCREASE THE RISK OF CRASH/INJURY. HOWEVER, HONDA WILL NOT COVER THE REPAIR AS THE VEHICLE HAS A SALVAGE TITLE. HOWEVER, I DO NOT SEE HOW THIS IS NOT A SAFETY ISSUE AND THEREFORE SHOULD BE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO BE COVERED AS IT PUTS MY FAMILY IN DANGER.

ON 2/22/2017, MY WIFE WAS DRIVING VEHICLE, SUDDENLY HESITATES AND STALLS. PROCEEDS TO THE NEAREST VEHICLE SERVICE LOCATION (NOT A HONDA DEALER). TECHNICIAN EVALUATES CODES (ALL MISFIRES - P0304, P0305, P0306 & P0300). INFORMS WIFE OF PISTON/ENGINE RECALL AND SERVICE BULLETINS. REPLACES 3 SPARK PLUGS TO MAKE VEHICLE DRIVABLE AND CLEARS CODES. ADVISES TO CONTACT HONDA DEALERSHIP. I CONTACT DEALERSHIP AND MAKE APPOINTMENT FOR NEXT MORNING (2/23). AFTER BRINGING IN VEHICLE, DEALER ADVISES THAT UNDER WARRANTY THEY ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO DO REPAIR AS THE CODES WERE CLEARED BY 3RD PARTY AND ARE NOT SHOWING NOW. THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO DRIVE VEHICLE UNTIL ISSUE ARISES AGAIN (NOT IF ISSUE ARISES, BUT WHEN ISSUE ARISES) AND TO HAVE IT BROUGHT BACK TO DEALER FOR REPAIR. I EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THIS IS A KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED DEFECT, YET THEY WILL NOT REPAIR. I ALSO EXPRESSED THAT THIS IS A LEGITIMATE SAFETY CONCERN IN THAT THE FAILURE WAS SUDDEN AND UNEXPECTED AND THAT IF MY WIFE WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE WITH MY CHILDREN ABOARD AND THE FAILURE OCCURS IN TRAFFIC OR AS SHE IS MERGING OR ENTERING A ROADWAY, A CRASH CAN OCCUR. DEALER MAINTAINED POSITION THAT THEY WERE NOT AUTHORIZED TO DO THE WORK UNDER THE WARRANTY. CONTACTED AMERICAN HONDA AND WAS TOLD THAT WORK WOULD NOT BE AUTHORIZED DUE TO 3RD PARTY CLEARING CODES. HONDA ASSIGNED CASE MANAGER AND CASE NUMBER ([XXX]) AND ADVISED THE SAME. I HAVE ASKED TO SPEAK TO SUPERVISORS, BUT HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE TO DATE. AM CONCERNED THAT THIS IS A KNOWN DEFECT, WITH A KNOWN REPAIR, AND HONDA'S REFUSAL TO ADDRESS IS A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY CONCERN. NOTICED SIMILAR COMPLAINTS LISTED AS NHTSA 10950032, 10907653, 10875963, 10682162, 10660226, 10588234, 10496891. DEALERSHIP IS HONDA KINGSPORT (TN). INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR

I HAD JUST TAKEN A SHORT DRIVE AND WAS BACKING THE VEHICLE BACK INTO MY DRIVEWAY WHEN THE ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AND THE ENGINE STARTED TO ACT LIKE IT HAD A MISFIRE. THIS HAPPENED AT JUST OVER 60,000 MILES. I TOOK IT TO THE LOCAL HONDA DEALER (JENKINS & WYNNE OF CLARKSVILLE, TN) TO SEE IF THERE MIGHT BE A RECALL ON THE ISSUE OR IF IT WAS A COMMON PROBLEM. THEY CHECKED OUT MY VAN AND TOLD ME THAT IT WAS A COMMON RECALL FOR MY MODEL WHICH WAS A FOULED SPARK PLUG IN CYLINDER FOUR DUE TO THE PISTON RINGS ALIGNING AND CAUSING OIL TO ENTER THE CHAMBER AND CAUSE THE SPARK PLUG TO FOUL. THIS ALSO EXPLAINS WHY I USE SO MUCH OIL IN BETWEEN OIL CHANGES. HOWEVER, WHEN THEY ENTERED MY VIN INTO THE COMPUTER, MY VEHICLE DOES NOT COME UP AS COVERED UNDER THE 8 YEAR UNLIMITED MILLAGE RECALL THEY HAD FOR THIS PROBLEM. SO I TALKED TO TWO DIFFERENT PERSONNEL AT AMERICA HONDA TO SEE IF I COULD GET THIS PROBLEM RECTIFIED WITH OUT ME SPENDING OVER $2,000 OUT OF POCKET. SINCE IT IS THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM ON THE VEHICLES COVERED UNDER THE WARRANTY. THEY WERE NO HELP IN FIXING MY PROBLEM.

WHEN DRIVING IN TOWN AND STOPPING FOR LIGHTS THE CAR HESITATES WHEN STEPPING ON THE GAS AGAIN AND ALMOST STOPS. I CAN GET IT TO GO AGAIN IF I LET GO OF THE GAS AND STEP ON THE GAS AGAIN. THIS ALSO HAPPENS WHEN I AM DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY AND I GO TO ACCELERATE AND IT HESITATES THEN I DO THE SAME THING AND IT STARTS TO PICK UP SPEED. THIS IS DANGEROUS WHEN I AM TRYING TO TURN IN FRONT OF CARS, SWITCH LANES AND WHEN OTHERS DO NOT NOTICE I STOP WHEN STARTING OFF AT A LIGHT. I HAVE HAD THIS INTO THE REPAIR SHOP AND THEY SAY IT IS A COMPUTER PROBLEM BUT THERE IS NO FIX. I WANT TO BUY A NEW HONDA BUT CAN NOT BUY ANOTHER CAR WITH THIS PROBLEM CONNTINUES. UNFORTUNATELY IT DOES NOT DO IT ON COMMAND SO I CANNOT GO AND GET A REPAIR MAN TO RIDE AND FEEL THE PROBLEM. I HAVE HAD SEVERAL FRIENDS WHO DROVE THE CAR ALSO COMMENT ON THIS PROBLEM. PROBLEM STARTED WHEN I BOUGHT THE CAR AND IS STILL HAPPENING 3 YRS LATER.

2013 HONDA ODYSSEY. CONSUMER WRITES IN REGARDS TO DEALERSHIP REFUSAL TO PROVIDE LOANER VEHICLE UNTIL RECALL REPAIRS ARE COMPLETE, REFUSAL TO REPLACE KEY AND BATTERY. *SMD THE CONSUMER STATED THERE WERE SEVERAL RECALLS ON THE VEHICLE. THE DEALER REFUSED TO PROVIDE SERVICE, BECAUSE THE CONSUMER DID NOT HOLD A WASHINGTON STATE LICENSE. *JB