2010 Honda Odyssey

I am reporting a recurring and dangerous brake system failure in my 2010 Honda Odyssey. Intermittently, when the vehicle is first started, the brake pedal becomes completely stiff and cannot be depressed at all. During these events, the brakes are effectively non-functional until the condition resolves, creating a serious safety hazard. This issue occurs without warning and has happened on multiple occasions. This defect is especially dangerous because it prevents normal braking operation at startup, increasing the risk of a collision if the vehicle is moved or if immediate braking is required. I have attempted to repair this issue extensively. The vehicle has been inspected by three separate repair facilities, including a Honda dealership. The following components have been replaced in an effort to resolve the problem: •Master cylinder •Brake booster •Rotors •Brake lines •ABS system Despite these repairs, the issue persists unchanged. I have spent over $2,500 attempting to fix what appears to be a systemic defect. The Honda dealership suggested the issue may be caused by air entering the brake lines when the vehicle is parked on a slope. However, this explanation is not consistent with normal automotive function, and similar vehicles do not exhibit this behavior under the same conditions. Given the repeated failure of major brake system components to resolve the issue, I believe this represents a defect in the vehicle’s braking system that could affect other vehicles of the same model. I am submitting this complaint due to the serious safety risk posed by intermittent loss of braking function and request that this issue be investigated.

When having to slow down or stop quickly, the van starts to jerk back and forth and shake a lot and the car becomes very difficult to control. This is especially noticeable when going down hills such as I-70 in Colorado, I-15 in eastern California or mountain passes in the Sierra Nevadas, but also when coming around a corner on a freeway and the traffic is stopped. It would be very serious if driving and a child ran out into the street in front of the van. I recently learned that this has happened fairly frequently with Honda Odyssey vans. I have had to replace brake and strut parts and bearings multiple times. (gratefully the struts were still under warranty, so I only had to pay for labor the ensuing times.)

THIS VEHICLE SPEED FROM 50 TO 70 MILES IF TAKE BRAKE THE CAR VIBRATE, THAT START FROM AROUND 30,000 MILES. AFTER FIXED IT, ABOUT 5,000 MILES, VIBRATE AGAIN. NOW THE TOTAL MILEAGE IS 79,300, ALREADY FIXED 3 TIMES. I FOUND HONDA ALL CAR MODEL HAS THE SAME ISSUE (ALL MY FRIENDS' DIFFERENT HONDA CAR MODELS) . ANOTHER PROBLEM IS WHEN DRIVE FEELING A STRONG VIBRATION IN STEERING WHEEL WHEN ACCELERATION FEELING FROM THIS APRIL 2017. LAST WEEK JUST FIXED IT, DEALER CHANGED BOTH SIDE OF DRIVESHAFT ASSY-. CAR DEALER TALKED TO ME MANUFACTURE USED THE BAD PARTS MAY FROM 2008 TO 2012.

BRAKE SOFT PEDAL/WEAK PERFORMANCE - LONGER STOPPING DISTANCE I STRONGLY FEEL THE BRAKE PEDAL IS SOFT AND THE PERFORMANCE IS NOT GOOD. IT HAS A LONGER STOPPING DISTANCE. CURRENT MILEAGE IS ABOUT 50K MILES. AT 30K THE BRAKE FLUID WAS REPLACED AS RECOMMENDED BY A DEALER, ALONG WITH OTHER MAJOR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULED. STILL I FELT THE SAME ISSUE AT 45K, BUT THE DEALER REPLACED THE FRONT PADS OF THE BRAKE ONE YEAR AGO, BUT THE PROBLEM REMAINED AS OF NOW. IN THE BEGINNING I THOUGHT BECAUSE IT IS A BIGGER CAR AND HONDA'S BRAKE STYLE. BUT I FOUND OTHER SIMILAR MINIVAN I RENTED FOR A TRAVEL HAD A TIGHT AND GOOD PERFORMING BRAKING SYSTEM, AND ALSO I PURCHASED A HONDA CR-V THIS JANUARY WHICH HAS A VERY TIGHT AND GOOD PERFORMING BRAKE AS WELL. IN THE MEAN TIME, I FOUND A PREVIOUS BRAKE RELATED RECALL FOR THE HONDA ODYSSEY 2007-8 MODELS. MY 2010 MODEL HAS THE SIMILAR BRAKE PROBLEM WITH THE OLDER MODELS - SOFT BRAKE PEDAL. I AM NOT SURE HOW HONDA HAS SOLVED THE PREVIOUS PROBLEM AND WHETHER IS THERE ANY SIMILAR PROBLEM POSSIBLY REMAINING IN THE LATER MODEL. SIMPLE BRAKE PAD REPLACEMENT/ROTOR POLISHING AND SO ON, CAN NOT SOLVE THIS SOFT BRAKE PEDAL PROBLEM. DEALER HAS NOT SOLVED THE PROBLEM BUT SIMPLY REPLACING MY FRONT BRAKE PAD AND ADJUSTMENT OF THE BRAKE SYSTEM. I AM AFRAID THIS PROBLEM IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS HONDA ODYSSEY 2007-8 MODEL PROBLEMS.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNED A 2010 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE APPROACHING A COMPLETE STOP, THERE WAS A DELAYED RESPONSE WHEN THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED. THE CONTACT REAR ENDED THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF THEM. THERE WERE NO INJURIES SUSTAINED. THERE WAS NO POLICE REPORT FILED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOTALED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 58,000.

TRAVELING IN MOTION AT 40MPH THAN A SUDDEN ACCELERATION OF ENGINE AND SPEED. VERY DIFFICULT TO STOP WITH BRAKES. HONDA ODYSSEY WAS PUT ON NEUTRAL THAN BRAKES WERE APPLIED TO STOP VEHICLE. MY VEHICLE WAS ON A SECONDARY RODE AT THE TIME OF SUDDEN ACCELERATION. WE CALLED AAA TO PICK UP OUR HONDA ODYSSEY AND TOOK IT TO OUR LOCAL MECHANIC FOR THE REST OF THE DAY.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2010 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE APPROACHING A COMPLETE STOP, THERE WAS A DELAYED RESPONSE WHEN THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED. THE FAILURE RECURRED THREE TIMES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER NUMEROUS TIMES. THE MECHANIC DISPENSED BRAKE FLUID, BUT WAS UNABLE TO LOCATE THE FAILURE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS UNAVAILABLE.

AFTER FRONT BRAKES WERE REPLACED PEDAL HEIGHT FELT DECENT. WHEN STOPPING ON A RAINY DAY I FELT THE ABS KICK IN. IT MADE A DIFFERENT SOUND THAN I'VE HEARD BEFORE. EVER SINCE THEN THE PEDAL HEIGHT HAS NOT FELT NORMAL. FEELS SOFT. IF YOU PUMP IT A COUPLE TIMES ITS NOT TOO BAD BUT WHO HAS TIME FOR THAT IN A SUDDEN STOP. THE PEDAL FEELS AS THOUGH IT TRAVELS FARTHER BEFORE ENGAGING AND WHEN IT DOES, IT IS STILL NOT HARD LIKE MY FORD. FOR A VEHICLE LIKE THIS WITH 4 WHEEL DISC BRAKES IT SHOULD STOP ON A DIME LIKE IT USED TO. HAD THE BRAKE FLUID CHANGED AT THE DEALER. NO DIFFERENCE. THEY COULD NOT GIVE ME A SPEC FOR THE PEDAL HEIGHT. INTERESTING. I GUESS THE PEDAL CAN NEVER BE TOO LOW IF THERE'S NO SPEC, ONLY SUBJECTIVE TO WHAT HONDA WANTS TO ADMIT IS BAD OR NOT. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH I HAVE A 1989 LINCOLN MARK VII WITH THE ORGINAL FORD SERVICE MANUAL. THERE IS A SPECIFIC RANGE FOR THE PEDAL HEIGHT WHEN MEASURED FROM THE FLOOR BOARD. SURPRISING HOW FORD HAS HAD IT SINCE 1989 AND HONDA IS NOT REQUIRED. AGAIN - WE CAN ALL THINK THE PEDAL IS TOO LOW BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY HONDA'S OPINION SINCE THERE'S NOTHING TO MEASURE IT AGAINST. I HAVE OWNED THIS VEHICLE SINCE IT WAS BRAND NEW SO I KNOW HOW THE BRAKES USED TO, AND SHOULD FEEL. GIVEN THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ON THE WEB WITH SIMILAR STORIES FROM THE DEALERS AND HONDA I HOPE NHTSA WILL FINALLY FORCE THIS ISSUE INTO A RECALL BY REASSESSING THE VEHICLES STOPPING DISTANCE AGAINST WHAT WAS ADVERTISED. OR IS THIS ONLY APPLICABLE FOR THE 3/36 WARRANTY? NHTSA, IN THE WAKE OF THE VW SCANDAL, PLEASE FINALLY FORCE HONDA TO PULL THEIR HEAD OF THE SAND, ADMIT AND CORRECT THESE ISSUES SO MANY CUSTOMERS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT. ESPECIALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO SOMETHING AS CRITICAL AS BRAKES.