2007 Honda Odyssey

BRAKES WITH SOFT PEDAL AND FRONT NOISE. PROBLEM WAS FIRST TAKEN TO THE DEALERSHIP ON 02-02-08. THROUGH RESEARCH FROM CONTACTS AT HONDA I FOUND OUT THAT THEY ARE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH A PROPORTIONING VALVE OR ABS MODULATOR. THE FLAW IS ALLOWING AIR TO GET INTO THE BRAKE LINES CAUSING SOFT PEDAL AND DECREASED PERFORMANCE. IT APPEARS THAT MOST OF THE AIR IN THE LINES IS AFFECTING THE REAR BRAKES PERFORMANCE. I'M EXPERIENCING VERY HOT FRONT BRAKES AND I FEEL THIS IS CAUSING GLAZING AND THE NOISE. I FIRST NOTICED THE PROBLEM AROUND THE 4,000 MILE RANGE. HONDA HAS A TECHNICAL BULLETIN IN THEIR SYSTEM WITH INSTRUCTIONS FOR BLEEDING THE SYSTEM IN AN ATTEMPT TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. THEY ARE ALSO RECOMMENDING THE REPLACEMENT OF THIS VALVE/UNIT ALSO. IN MY CASE, I'M STILL EXPERIENCING A PROBLEM WITH SOFT BRAKE PEDAL AND FRONT BRAKE NOISE. I HAVE FILED A 'LEMON LAW" CLAIM FOR MY VEHICLE WITH THE BBB AND HONDA. I CAN PROVIDE COPIES OF THESE TECHNICAL BULLETINS UPON REQUEST. I HAVE ALSO DONE A "GOOGLE" SEARCH FOR HONDA BRAKE PROBLEMS AND I HAVE FOUND NUMEROUS OTHERS WITH THE SAME EXACT ISSUES ON THE POSTINGS I FOUND. *TR

ON 12/26/07, I HAD A VERY BAD ACCIDENT HITTING 2 CARS AND ALL OF THE AIR BAGS IN OUR NEW 07 HONDA ODYSSEY DEPLOYED. MY WIFE WAS IN THE CAR, I WAS DRIVING AND WE WERE EXITING THE HIGHWAY WITH THE CRUISE CONTROL ON AND TURNED ONTO THE OFF RAMP WHEN THE BRAKES COMPLETELY FAILED; I STEPPED ON THE BRAKES REPEATEDLY AND THEY WERE SO SOFT THEY WENT COMPLETELY TO THE FLOOR BOARD AND THE CAR WOULD NOT STOP AND THE CRUISE CONTROL WOULD NOT TURN OFF. THE RAMP WAS ABOUT 100 YARDS LONG, SO WE WOULD HAVE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO STOP IF THE BRAKES WORKED. THE RAMP WAS UPHILL AND BECAUSE THE CRUISE CONTROL DID NOT GO OFF, THE CAR STARTED TO ACCELERATE AND WE WERE GOING FASTER AND FASTER UP THE OFF RAMP. WE HAD NO PREVIOUS WARNING AND DID NOT EXPERIENCE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE BRAKES PRIOR. AT THE TOP OF THE RAMP WAS A LIGHT THAT STOPPED TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD, WE WERE THE FIRST OFF THE HIGHWAY ONTO THE RAMP AND BECAUSE I COULD NOT STOP, WE REACHED THE LIGHT (GREEN) FOR US, CROSSED OVER A MEDIAN AND HIT TWO CARS ON OTHER SIDE WAITING FOR LIGHT TO CHANGE AND CRASHED. I COULD NOT TURN DUE TO THE SPEED AND WE WOULD HAVE ROLLED IF I DID. EVERY AIR BAG IN OUR ODY DEPLOYED, THE SEAT BELTS HELD US BACK AND FORTUNATELY WE WERE NOT HURT. DRIVER OF ONE OF THE CARS WAS TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL; UNSURE OF HER INJURIES. AFTER 7 MONTHS OF OUR CAR BEING REPAIRED, THE CAR WAS TAKEN TO A HONDA DEALER WHO FINALLY TESTED THE CAR AND BRAKES AND DETERMINED THAT THE ABS/VSA MODULATOR CIRCUIT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED UNDER WARRANTY AND BRAKE LINES HAD AIR IN THEM. THEY REPLACED THE ASSEMBLY, BLED THE BRAKE HYDRAULIC SYSTEM. THERE IS DEFINITELY A PROBLEM WITH THE 2007 ODYSSEY BRAKES. WE HAD TAKEN THE CAR INTO DEALER FOR OIL CHANGE AND CHECKUP JUST 2 DAYS BEFORE ACCIDENT HAPPENED. OUR BRAKES WENT OUT WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARNING WHATSOEVER -- WE OR SOMEONE ELSE COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED, AS THE ACCIDENT WAS BAD. THE CAR WAS REPAIRED, RATHER THAN BEING TOTALED AT TIME OF ACCIDENT. *TR

SOFT BRAKES. I HAVE HAD TO DEALER THREE TIMES. #1. REPLACED BRAKE CYLINDER BRAKES WERE STILL SOFT. #2 REPLACED ANTI LOCK BRAKE SENSOR. STILL SOFT. #3 TOLD THAT HONDA KNEW OF THIS AND I WAS ON A LIST SO WHEN THEY KNEW WHAT WAS WRONG I WOULD BE CONTACTED. BRAKES ARE STILL SOFT. WHEN YOU STEP ON FOOT BRAKE CAR WILL STOP OK, BUT PEDAL WILL GO ALMOST TO THE FLOOR BOARD. DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF HAD TO PANIC STOP. *TR

BRAKES ARE TOO SOFT/MUSHY. BRAKES DON'T WORK PROPERLY MOST OF THE TIME. IT TAKES INCREASING PRESSURE TO STOP VEHICLE. SOMETIMES THE VEHICLE LURCHES FORWARD AFTER IT STOPS WHICH CAUSES YOU TO BE OUT IN INTERSECTIONS, PAST STOP SIGNS AND POSSIBLY HIT ANOTHER VEHICLE. ON FRIDAY JUNE 6, 08 THE BRAKES FAILED AGAIN, THIS TIME AT 60-65 MPH. ANOTHER VEHICLE DRIVING TOO FAST SWERVING IN & OUT OF TRAFFIC PULLED IN FRONT OF ME THAT REQUIRED ME TO BRAKE IN ORDER TO AVOID ANOTHER ACCIDENT. WHEN PRESSURE APPLIED THE VEHICLE DID NOT SLOW DOWN UNTIL BRAKE PEDAL NEARLY TOUCHED THE FLOOR. W/ SOME GREAT DEFENSIVE DRIVING AN ACCIDENT WAS AVOIDED. A RECENT TEST DRIVE BY THE DEALERSHIP AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO RECREATE THE BRAKES PROBLEM. UPON TAKING THE KEYS BACK, I HAD TO DEPRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL NEARLY TO THE FLOOR IN ORDER TO SHIFT INTO DRIVE. I PUT THE VEHICLE IN PARK AND RETURNED TO THE SERVICE MGR TO HAVE HIM GO ON A TEST DRIVE W/ ME. HE REFUSED. I ASKED HIM 4X'S TO PLEASE TEST DRIVE IT WITH ME DRIVING. HE SAID THAT HE DROVE THE VEHICLE, THE DISTRICT SOMEBODY DROVE THE VEHICLE AS WELL AS A TECHNICIAN. HE AGAIN STATED NOTHING WRONG W/ BRAKES. I LEFT THE DEALERSHIP WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION : 10DPSM/SM DROVE VEHICLE TESTING BRAKES. COMPETED PANIC STOPS AT 40 MPH, 20 MPH. BRAKES OPERATED AS DESIGNED. TECH DROVE VEHICLE WHILE TESTING BRAKES AND PEDAL STIFFNESS. PANIC STOPS AT 10, 20, 30, 40 & 45 MPH. SWERVE SIDE TO SIDE TO TEST VSA AS WELL. ALL SYSTEMS OPERATE AS DESIGNED. I WANT TO NOTE THAT ONLY 11.5 MILES WERE PUT ON THE VAN DURING THEIR "TEST" OF IT .THEY DID NOT TEST IT UNDER MY NORMAL DRIVING CONDITIONS. I DON'T FEEL THE VEHICLE WAS ADEQUATELY TEST DRIVEN. THE BRAKES WILL WORK OFF AN ON, BUT THE LONGER IT IS DRIVEN AND THE MORE THE BRAKES ARE USED DURING THAT DRIVE, THE LESS RELIABLE THEY BECOME. HONDA REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE MAY BE PROBLEMS WITH THE BRAKES ON THEIR 2007 MODEL VANS DESPITE ALL THE INFO SENT TO THEM FROM THE NHSTA SITE. *TR

I WAS DRIVING MY 2007 HONDA ODYSSEY. AS I WAS COMING TO A STOP, I BECAME INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT. OVER THE RECENT WEEKS I THOUGHT IT WAS TAKING LONGER TO STOP MY VAN, BUT HAD MY VAN IN FOR SERVICE THE WEEK BEFORE. I WAS ASSURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS FINE AND ALL FLUID LEVELS WERE CORRECT. ***NOTE: ON MY FIRST SERVICE VISIT THE SERVICE ADVISER TOLD ME THAT I SHOULD NOT BE CONCERNED ABOUT BRAKE FLUID LEVELS THAT THE VAN WOULD NOTIFY ME WHEN IT WAS TIME TO REPLACE THE BREAKS AND THAT THE VAN WAS DESIGNED TO DO SO. THE POLICE WERE CALLED TO THE SCENE OF THE ACCIDENT. I COULD NOT EXPLAIN THE ACCIDENT AND THE OFFICER COAXED ME IN TO SAYING THAT I HAD BEEN DISTRACTED. I WAS IN SHOCK. MY SON WAS IN THE CAR WITH ME AND I COULD NOT THINK MUCH OF ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN WHETHER HE WAS SAFE. I BELIEVE I HAD COME TO A COMPLETE STOP THEN HIT THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF ME. MY AIRBAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. EVER SINCE THE ACCIDENT I HAVE CONTINUED TO NOTICE THAT I MUST PRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL ALL THE WAY TO THE FLOOR AT TIMES TO STOP THE VAN AND OTHER TIMES I DON'T IN NORMAL DRIVING CIRCUMSTANCES. ALL ALONG I HAD BELIEVED THE DEALERSHIP THAT EVERYTHING WAS FINE WITH MY VEHICLE. NOW I HAVE DAMAGES TO PAY AND A TICKET I AM FACING AS A RESULT OF WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE BREAK FAILURE. I WILL BE MAKING A FOLLOW-UP REPORT WITH MY LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT, FAXING A COPY OTHER SIMILAR BREAK FAILURE COMPLAINTS TO MY INSURANCE COMPANY, CONTACTING HONDA AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO GET SOME ANSWERS ON THE PROBLEM WITH MY VAN. *TR

1. AT 60 MPH ON DRY SURFACE HWY, HAD TO STOP IN 200'. APPLYING NORMAL PRESSURE TO BRAKE PEDAL, I REALIZED THE CAR WOULD NOT STOP IN TIME, SO GRADUALLY APPLIED MORE PRESSURE, WHICH WAS INSUFFICIENT TO STOP UNTIL HALF WAY THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. TRAFFIC WAS NOT A FACTOR. I APPLIED MORE THAN ENOUGH PRESSURE TO STOP AND THE CAR DID NOT. IT IS MY WIFE'S CAR, AND I'M VERY WORRIED, NOT KNOWING IF THIS IS AN ISOLATED INCIDENT OR HOW THE CAR REACTS IN THIS SITUATION. 2. THIS SITUATION HAS NOT PRESENTED ITSELF OTHER THAT THIS TIME. 3. NOTHING REQUESTED. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 45 MPH, THE VEHICLE MADE A LOUD NOISE. THE TRANSMISSION WAS REPLACED TWICE WITHIN SIX MONTHS. WHEN ATTEMPTING TO STOP THE VEHICLE, IT SKIPS FROM FIRST TO THIRD GEAR, CAUSING THE VEHICLE TO LUNGE FORWARD. THE CONTACT NOTICED THAT WHEN APPLYING PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL, THE PEDAL EXTENDS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FLOOR AND CAUSES THE VEHICLE TO VIBRATE EXCESSIVELY. AS A RESULT, THE STOPPING DISTANCE IS INCREASED. SHE TOOK THE VEHICLE BACK TO THE DEALER AND THEY REPLACED THE BRAKE ROTOR, WHICH DID NOT REMEDY THE FAILURE. THE MANUFACTURER DID NOT ASSIST. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 1,500.

I AM A MECHANIC AT A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND WE HAVE PURCHASED 3 2007 ODYSSEY VANS. WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOFT BRAKES ON ALL THREE VANS. ONE OF THE VANS HAD A COMPLAINT OF HARD STOPPING I.E. TOO LONG OF DISTANCE. UPON TEST DRIVING THE VAN I DID NOTICE THAT THE BRAKES WERE VERY MUSHY. I DROVE ONE OF THE OTHER NEW VANS AND PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING, MUSHY BRAKES. I TOOK VAN TO THE DEALER AND THEY TRIED TO REPRODUCE PROBLEM WHICH THEY MUST OF BECAUSE THEY HAD FOR 3 DAYS AND WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM. THEY TRIED BLEEDING THE BRAKES ETC. THEY ENDED UP REPLACING THE MASTER CYLINDER. UPON THE RETURN OF THE VAN I NOTICED AN IMPROVEMENT IN PEDAL FEEL BUT THE BRAKES STILL FEEL TOO MUSHY. YOU AREN'T SURE WHERE THE STOPPING POINT OR I SHOULD SAY THE APPLICATION POINT COMES INTO PLAY. *TR

MY 2007 HONDA ODYSSEY BRAKES ARE TOO SOFT, I'M NOT CONFIDENT ABOUT THE BRAKES FROM THE DAY I BOUGHT THE VEHICLE, I NEED TO PUT EXTRA PRESSURE TO BRING THE VEHICLE TO A STOP. BRAKES HAVE TO BE DEPRESSED ALL THE WAY TO THE FLOOR TO STOP AND ALMOST AVOID REAR ENDING COUPLE OF TIMES. TOOK IT TO THE DEALER, THEY BLEED THE SYSTEM AND SAID IT OK, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE, ITS REALLY VERY UNSAFE WITH THESE KIND OF BRAKES. I SEE LOT OF OWNERS ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEMS , PLEASE ACT IMMEDIATELY. I BOUGHT THIS VEHICLE FOR MY KIDS AND I NO LONGER FEEL SAFE TO DRIVE THIS VEHICLE WITH MY KIDS. *TR