2005 Honda Odyssey

GRINDING, PULSATING HARD TO STOP BRAKES AT 8500 MILES. HONDA STATED NOT A SAFETY ISSUE. ISSUE GOT WORSE AND FINALLY AFTER 13 ATTEMPTS THROUGH 2 DEALERS AND THEIR CUSTOMER RELATIONS LINE, I FILED WITH THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU. IT WAS DEEMED IN THE ARBITRATION HEARING THAT THESE BRAKES WERE INDEED A SAFETY ISSUE. POOR BRAKE PADS WHICH CAUSED WARPED ROTORS ARE DANGEROUS. VEHICLE DOES NOT STOP TIMELY. SOMEONE WILL GET KILLED. HONDA IS WELL AWARE THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE BRAKING SYSTEM ON THE 2005 AND 2006 ODYSSEY (MY PARENTS HAVE A 2006). WHEN I FIRST REPORTED IN APRIL 05, HONDA SAID THEY NEW OF THE PROBLEM, BUT CONTINUED TO SELL DANGEROUS VEHICLES. SUPPOSEDLY AS OF MARCH 06 THEY HAVE THE NEW PADS. IT SHOULD BE MANDATED THAT THEY NOTIFY EVERY 05 & 06 ODYSSEY OWNER AND ADVISE THEM OF THE POTENTIAL PROBLEM. PLEASE MAKE HONDA DO THIS BECAUSE THEY WON'T ON THEIR OWN. ACCORDING TO HONDA'S OWN WEBSITE "HONDA GENUINE BRAKE PADS YOUR HONDA'S ABILITY TO BRAKE PROPERLY AND RELIABLY IS OBVIOUSLY OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE FOR THE SAFETY OF YOU AND YOUR PASSENGERS." THEY ADVERTISE THAT THE VEHICLE IS THE SAFEST, BUT IT IS A DANGEROUS FAMILY VEHICLE. DOES A FAMILY HAVE TO DIE BEFORE HONDA DOES THE RIGHT THING? *NM

1) EVENTS LEADING UP TO THE FAILURE, THERE WERE NO INDICATIONS PRIOR TO THE INCIDENT. (2) FAILURE AND ITS CONSEQUENCES, AND AS SOON CAR WAS PUT IN PARK AND TURNED OFF, WHITE SMOKE CAME OUT FROM UNDER THE HOOD, TURNING TO BLACK SMOKE AND FIRE WITHIN ONE MINUTE. WHOLE ENGINE, DASH AND FRONT OF CAR WAS DESTROYED IN THE FIRE. (3) WHAT WAS DONE TO CORRECT THE FAILURE; I.E, PARTS REPAIRED OR REPLACED (AND IF OLD PART IS AVAILABLE) CAR WAS TOTALED. *NM

DT*: THE CONTACT STATED WHILE MAKING U-TURNS, AT 5 MPH, A NOISE WAS HEARD COMING FROM UNDERNEATH THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE THE BRAKE CLIP ON THE PASSENGER FRONT WAS REPLACED. THE NOISE PERSISTED AND THE DEALER REPLACED THE STEERING PUMP ON A SECOND VISIT. THE REPLACEMENT OF THE STEERING PUMP DID NOT REMEDY THE PROBLEM AND THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN RETURNED TO THE DEALER FOR FURTHER INSPECTION. THE DRIVER SIDE DOOR DID NOT CLOSE PROPERLY, THE RIGHT SIDE DOOR SEAL WAS BROKE. UPDATED 05/23/06. *JB

WINDSHIELD WIND NOISES.. NOISES STARTED 7 MONTHS AND 9900 MILES AFTER POSSESSION OF VEHICLE. STARTING HEARING WHISTLING NOISE WHEN DRIVE VEHICLE @ LOW SPEEDS ON WINDY DAYS. TOOK VEHICLE INTO THE SHOP AND THEY REPLACED BOTH MOLDINGS AND ADJUSTED FENDER. TOOK VEHICLE BACK INTO THE SHOP A MONTH LATER WITH SAME PROBLEM. THEY PREFORMED BULLETIN #04-078. DROVE VEHICLE ADDITIONAL 2000 MILES AND WIND NOISE STARTED AGAIN. THIS TIME I HAD OTHER DEALERSHIP IN TOWN TRY TO FIX WINDSHIELD. PICKED UP VEHICLE AND DROVE IT OUT OF TOWN AND RT. WINDSHIELD MOLDINGS CAME LOOSE. PULLED OVER AND NOTICED THAT DEALERSHIP HAD SCRATCHED AND DENTED FENDER AND WINDSHIELD POST. PULLED BACK THE LOOSE AND FLAPPING MOLDINGS AND NOTICED THAT THEY HAD SHOVED A RED SHOP TOWEL IN THE FENDER/WINDSHIELD AREA TO STOP THE NOISE. **IS THIS PROPER PROCEDURES IN THE REPAIR MANUEL** SHOVING RED SHOP RAGS IN THE FENDERS TO STOP WIND NOISE?? WHAT TO DO NOW - FENDER AND WINDSHIELD POST AND QUARTER NEEDS TO BE REPAINTED - I NOW HAVE LOST VALUE ON VEHICLE BECAUSE VEHICLE WILL BE PAINTED AND WINDSHIELD MOLDING IS HELD ON BY DUCK TAPE. --FYI, WINDSHIELD MOLDINGS ARE ONLY HELD IN WITH DOUBLE SIDED TAPE CLIPS - DOUBLE SIDED TAPE WILL ONLY HOLD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BEFORE THEY DETER ATE AND THEY WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED.. FACTORY DID NOT THINK OF THE LONGEVITY OF THE WINDSHIELD MOLDINGS. MANY, MANY MORE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUOUSLY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH WIND NOISE. *NM

UPDATE TO CASE #10155801: SINCE VEHICLE HAD BEEN SITTING FOR OVER TWO MONTHS AND HONDA DID NOT WANT TO FACE THAT VEHICLE HAS SAFETY ISSUES - I DECIDED TO HAVE VEHICLE TOWED TO THE OTHER SHOP IN TOWN FOR A SECOND OPINION. I DROPPED VEHICLE OFF TO HAVE BRAKES DONE W/ OTHER WARRANTY ISSUES AND 9 DAY LATER I PICKED UP VEHICLE AND THEY INSTALLED THE 1ST DESIGN BRAKE PADS. THE ONES WE HAD GRINDING, PULSATING, LOSS OF PRESSURE AND BRAKES THAT WOULD LOCKED UP. I CAN NOT WAIT - GIVE IT A FEW THOUSAND MORE MILES AND HERE I GO AGAIN -- THE FIRST BRAKE PROBLEMS ALL OVER AGAIN. PLEASE INVESTIGATE THE BRAKE ISSUES BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT OR EVEN KILLED. *NM

I AM A MEMBER OF THE 05' HONDA ODYSSEY GROWLING CLUB. I STARTED HAVING A VIBRATION - GROWLING NOISE IN THE DRIVELINE @ 60 TO 70 MPH AND @ 2000 RPM. THIS STARTED 7 MONTHS AFTER OWNERSHIP AND 9900 MILES LATER. I HAVE ALSO NOTICED ON THE FORUMS THAT MAY OTHER COMPLAINTS ON THIS SAME ITEM - I HAVE TAKEN INTO SHOP THREE TIMES AND BOTH DEALERSHIPS STATE THAT ALL THE NOISES ARE NORMAL. SOUND APPEARS TO GET LOUDER - IS THAT NORMAL?? *NM

LOWER SLIDING DOOR SEALS. HAD VEHICLE FOR 6 MONTHS AND 8200 MILES LATER AND I AM STARTING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH DOORS DRAGGING AND LOWER SEALS NOT STAYING UNDER SCUFF PLATE. TOOK VEHICLE IN LATER OCT. OF 05' TO LUBE DOORS. THEN HAD TO TAKE VEHICLE BACK A MONTH LATER TO HAVE SEAL REPLACED, BECAUSE SLIDING DOOR KEPT HITTING LOWER SEALS CAUSING DOOR NOT TO SHUT AND WIFE HAVING TO DRIVE HOME WITH DOOR OPEN AND KIDS IN THE VEHICLE. NOW, IT APPEARS THAT SEALS ARE STARTING TO COME OFF AGAIN. *NM