2008 Honda Civic

EVER SINCE I BOUGHT MY 2008 HONDA CIVIC SEDAN EX-L I HAVE HAD A VIBRATION, TIRE CUPPING AND SEVER NOISE IN THE REAR END SUSPENSION AND WHEELS. HONDA CLAIMS IT IS BECAUSE OF IMPROPER TIRE ROTATION INTERVALS. TIRE CUPPING IS NOT DUE TO IMPROPER TIRE ROTATION. IT IS DUE TO LACK OF PROPER SHOCK ABSORBING. I HAVE HAD MY CIVIC BACK FOR THIS PROBLEM EVERY 10,000 MILES WITH NO SOLUTION FROM HONDA. AT 26000 MILES I REPLACED THE REAR TIRES BECAUSE THEY WERE BADLY CUPPED. NOW MY NEW TIRES ARE CUPPED AS WELL. AFTER REPEATED WHEEL BALANCING, ALIGNMENTS AND MANY ATTEMPTS TO HAVE HONDA FIX IT I REPLACED THE REAR SHOCKS WITH HEAVY DUTY SHOCK TO NO AVAIL. THE LAST CAR I OWNED THAT SHOWED SIGNS OF REAR TIRE CUPPING WAS MY 1970 FIAT 850 RACER. I REPLACED THE REAR PRODUCTION SHOCKS WITH KONI ADJUSTABLE SHOCKS AND THE CUPPING CEASED. AGAIN HONDA REFUSES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM. THERE IS DEFINITELY A PROBLEM AND NEEDS A REMEDY. *TR

ON JUNE 20, 2010, MY WIFE TOOK HER MOTHER ON A TRIP TO THE MIDWEST. WHEN SHE STARTED BACK, THE SHAKING BECAME EXTREMELY BAD, AND THE NOISE WAS DEAFENING. THE CLOSEST HONDA DEALER WAS MIDDLEKAUFF HONDA, TWIN FALLS IDAHO. THEY SAID SHE WAS RUNNING ON THE STEEL BELTS OF THE 2 REAR TIRES, AND THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED. HE SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE THE HONDA PARTS TO CORRECT/REPAIR THE DEFECTIVE HONDA PARTS, BUT HE WOULD DO A 4 WHEEL ALIGNMENT, AND WITH 2 NEW TIRES SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET HOME, THEN TAKE THE ISSUE UP WITH OUR LOCAL HONDA DEALER. THE COST OF THIS SERVICE, AND (INFERIOR) TIRES TO THE VEHICLE WAS $269.31. ON JULY 16, 2010 WE TOOK THE CAR (MILEAGE 26234) INTO OUR DEALER WHO REPLACED THE DEFECTIVE PARTS AND DID ANOTHER ALIGNMENT AT NO CHARGE TO US. OUR SERVICE MANAGER ASKED WHY TWIN FALLS HONDA DID A 4 WHEEL ALIGNMENT, AS IT DID NOT FIX THE PROBLEM WITHOUT REPLACING THE DEFECTIVE HONDA PARTS. WE TOLD HIM THE TWIN FALLS HONDA DEALER SAID IT SHOULD BE DONE. OUR LOCAL SERVICE MANAGER TOLD US THAT THE HONDA CIVIC HYBRID IS VERY PARTICULAR ABOUT THE TYPE OF TIRES YOU PUT ON IT. THE DELTA MAJESTIC TIRES PUT ON IN TWIN FALLS, BESIDES BEING NOISIER, MAY REDUCE GAS MILEAGE. HE SAID THE ORIGINAL DUNLOP TIRES WOULD HAVE BEEN BEST. WE ARE EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED WITH HONDA USA REGARDING THIS DEFECT, THE DAMAGE CAUSED, WHAT IT HAS COST US, AND LOVED ONES LIVES PUT IN JEOPARDY! THIS WAS CAUSED BY A KNOWN DEFECT, PER HONDA SERVICE BULLETIN 08-001. WE ARE ASKING THAT HONDA USA LIVE UP TO IT'S REPUTATION FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE, WITHOUT US NEEDING TO SEEK FURTHER RECOURSE, AND THAT; OUR UNNECESSARY MONEY SPENT FOR THE 4 WHEEL ALIGNMENT AND 2 INFERIOR TIRES IN TWIN FALLS BE REFUNDED TO US, AND ALL FOUR TIRES BE REPLACED WITH THE ORIGINAL DUNLOP MODEL. *TR

SEVERE TIRE CUPPING, EARLY TIRE FAILURE. DEALER UNABLE TO FIX CAUSE OF PROBLEM, THEY STATE THAT IT RESULTS FROM A DESIGN FLAW (NON-ADJUSTABLE CAMBERS/ARMS). TIRES FAILED AT 20,000 MILES AND ARE FAILING AGAIN AT 44,000 MILES. I HAD TO FIGHT WITH HONDA TO GET THEM TO GO 50/50 ON THE FIRST SET OF REPLACED (DUNLOP) TIRES. THEY ARGUES THAT I HAD ENJOYED USING THEM FOR 1/2 THEIR LIFE, SO 50% WAS THEIR MAXIMUM DOLLAR MATCH. I WAS ALSO TOLD TO "ROTATE" MY TIRES MORE FREQUENTLY, EVEN THOUGH I HAD SERVICE RECORDS SHOWING THAT I DO ROTATE ON A ROUTINE BASIS AT THE DEALERSHIP. FROM WHAT I AM RESEARCHING ONLINE, HONDA HAS A BIG PROBLEM GOING ON WITH TIRE CUPPING ON THE CIVIC HYBRIDS. MY HOPE IS THAT THIS IS RESEARCHED BY THE NHTSA MORE THOROUGHLY. I AM SEEING NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS ON YOUR WEBSITE ABOUT THIS ISSUE.....SOME ARE FILED UNDER "TIRES" WHILE OTHERS FILED UNDER "REAR SUSPENSION". I'M GUESSING THE CHOOSE TO FILE UNDER "REAR SUSPENSION" BECAUSE DEALERS LIKE MINE ARE STATING THAT THIS IS A CAMBER ISSUE. ON A SIDE NOTE, AND THIS IS ODD TO ME, THE DEALERSHIP COULD NOT BRING MY ALIGNMENT INTO MANUFACTURE RECOMMENDED "SPEC" EITHER. THE NUMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY "OFF" WHERE HONDA SAYS THEY SHOULD BE. IRONIC??? *TR

CURRENTLY I HAVE 32,277 MILES AND DON'T DRIVE IT, IT'S NOT SAFE TO DRIVE. I TAKE A BUS :) 1# TRANS LOCKED AT 60MPH ON HWY AND CAUSED ALMOST A FATAL CRASH! AT 23,000 MILES. CAR WAS ABLE TO DRIVE UP TO 15MPG HAVING APPX. 6000RPMS. CAR LEFT AT DEALERSHIP AND ONLY PCM SOFTWARE WAS UPD. NO LOCKUPS ARE OCCURRING, BUT TRANS IS WEAVING, HARSH START/STOP OFTEN!/UNEXPECTED SHUTDOWN. DEALERSHIP FOUND SERVICE BULLETIN #08-014 (HARSH ENGAGEMENT), UPD. THE ON BOARD COMPUTER AND SYMPTOMS ARE MUCH WORSE THAN PREVIOUSLY. LOWER MPG ( 25-28 ), MUCH WORSE PERFORMANCE, UNEXPECTED BATTERY DISCHARGE, WEAVING, LOW ACCEL. DEALER DUPLICATED PROBLEMS, BUT SAID "IT'S OK" AND PROBLEMS IS UNTOUCHED. SINCE THEY UPDATED THE SYSTEM, THE HYBRID OPTION IS NOT KICKING IN AS BEFORE. PREV. I WAS ABLE TO DRIVE SLOWLY ONLY ON HYBRID, NOW I CAN'T. NO ACTIONS ARE TAKEN TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE. ONCE THEY CHANGED THE IMA BATT PACK, BUT THIS DID NOT HELP AND I SEE NOT A DIFFERENCE. COMPLAINED AGAIN, AND ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSE. BRAKES ARE MALFUNCTIONING. BRAKE FLUID IS MISSING, DEALER SAID "[XXX], IT'S A MYSTERY". DEPENDING ON OUTSIDE TEMP, BATTERY CHARGE LEVEL AND CAR TEMP BREAKS WORK DIFF! OCCASIONALLY WHILE SLOWING DOWN, THE BATTERY LEVEL REACHES FULL AND YOU MUST PRESS THE PEDAL AS HARD AS YOU CAN TO STOP. THIS HAS CAUSED SMALL CRASHES AND ONCE BRAKES DID NOT WORK, OR I PRESSED TOO LIGHTLY ( COLD OUTSIDE WITH FULL BATTERY ) AND UNFORTUNATELY I COULDN'T STOP ON TIME AND RAN OVER A PEDESTRIAN. SHE IS BADLY INJURED AND SUING MY INSURANCE COMPANY! DEALER REC. TO "CHANGE CAR, BETTER TO BUY NOT A HONDA AND DON'T BOTHER THEM IF NOTHING IS BROKEN." POLICE REPORT READY TO PRESENT. THESE ARE ONLY THE MAJOR ISSUES I'M HAVING. I WOULD NEED MUCH MORE SPACE TO WRITE 20 PGS ESSAY. MINOR ISSUES: - SUPER FAST TIRE WEAR ( AFTER 20,000 ) AND NOW AGAIN AT 32,000 - NOT WORKING CLIMATE CTRL SYSTEM - CHECK ENGINE, IMA LIGHT, BRAKE SYSTEM AND AIRBAG LIGHTS ON. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA CIVIC. WHILE THE CONTACT WAS DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 35 MPH, THE VEHICLE BEGAN TO FISHTAIL, AS A RESULT OF REAR SUSPENSION FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER FOR INSPECTION. THE TECHNICIAN STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS WITHIN THE ALIGNMENT REQUIREMENTS AND THE FAILURE WAS DUE TO A DESIGN FLAW. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS UNAVAILABLE. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 30,000. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE.

DEFECTIVE WHEEL SUSPENSION ON HONDA CIVIC HYBRID LEADING TO EXCESSIVE AND UNSAFE WEAR ON TIRES WITH CORRESPONDING ROAD NOISE. DEALER SEEMED PUZZLED WHY TIRES SHOULD BE WORN SO QUICKLY, SUGGESTED ROTATION, WHICH WE HAD ALREADY DONE ACCORDING TO THEIR SPECIFICATIONS. DEALER OFFERED NO COMPENSATION FOR TIRE WEAR, AS THEY STATED THAT TIRES WERE NOT UNDER WARRANTY. AFTER READING NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS WE REALIZE THE NECESSITY OF ADDING OURS AS NOTHING WILL BE DONE TO CORRECT THIS DEFECT IN DESIGN UNLESS EVERYONE WITH THIS PROBLEM SPEAKS OUT. DEALER SEEMS OBLIVOUS THAT THIS PROBLEM EXISTS.

2008 CIVIC EX COUPE. HAD TO REPLACE BOTH REAR TIRES AT AROUND 20,000 MILES DUE TO A SLIGHTLY VISIBLE FLAT SPOT ON THE TIRES THAT WAS CAUSING A PROGRESSIVELY LOUD ROAR. ON INITIAL INSPECTION, THE TIRE DEALER ADVISED ME THE TIRES LOOKED FINE AS THEY STILL HAD PLENTY OF TREAD AND APPEARED TO BE EVEN WEAR. HOWEVER, ON CLOSER EXAMINATION I WAS ABLE TO POINT OUT THE FLAT SPOTS VISIBLE ON THE CENTER OF THE TIRE. TIRE DEALER COULD NOT EXPLAIN CAUSE. WHEN I HAD REPLACED THE SECOND REAR TIRE, THE TIRE DEALER THOUGHT THAT THE BELTING HAD SLIPPED. I JUST ASSUMED I HAD A BAD SET OF TIRES. THE WEAR DID NOT LOOK LIKE TYPICAL DAMAGE CAUSED BY MISALIGNMENT. THE SAME PROBLEMS HAS AGAIN APPEARED WITH ABOUT 25,000 MILES ON THE NEW REAR TIRES. I NOW HAVE DISCOVERED THAT HONDA HAS SERVICE BULLETIN 08-001 WHICH DESCRIBES MY EXACT SYMPTOM AND REQUIRES THE UPPER CONTROL ARM TO BE REPLACED.. HONDA HAS NOT ISSUED A RECALL ON THIS. HONDA SHOULD NOTIFY OWNERS AND TIRE DEALERS OF THIS POSSIBLE FAILURE SO CONSUMERS ARE AWARE ON HOW TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. BESIDES, THE EXTREMELY LOUD NOISE THAT EVENTUALLY APPEARS, THE VIBRATION WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD TO COMPLETE TIRE FAILURE. *TR