WE HAVE A 2007 FORD FIVE HUNDRED AND HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THE THROTTLE BODY CAUSING A SURGE AND LUNGE WHEN WE PUT THE CAR FROM IDLE TO REVERSE OR DRIVE. THE CAR WILL LUNGE FORWARD SUDDENLY CAUSING SOME NEAR ACCIDENTS. ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS WHEN THE TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE 90'S AND THE AC IS ON FULL BLAST THE CAR WILL SURGE A…
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WE HAVE A 2007 FORD FIVE HUNDRED AND HAVE HAD ISSUES WITH THE THROTTLE BODY CAUSING A SURGE AND LUNGE WHEN WE PUT THE CAR FROM IDLE TO REVERSE OR DRIVE. THE CAR WILL LUNGE FORWARD SUDDENLY CAUSING SOME NEAR ACCIDENTS. ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS WHEN THE TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE 90'S AND THE AC IS ON FULL BLAST THE CAR WILL SURGE AND LUNGE IN REVERSE AND THEN STALL. THE MECHANIC SAID IT WAS DO TO AN ISSUE WITH THE THROTTLE BODY AND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MANY OTHER SIMILAR COMPLAINTS. I WAS THINKING THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF RECALL FOR THE THROTTLE BODY IN FORD FIVE HUNDREDS, BECAUSE THIS IS A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE! *TR
NHTSA ODI #10358524
65,000 miles · Sep 15, 2010
Electrical SystemPower Train
CAR: 2007 FORD 500 LIMITED. MOVING SHIFT LEVER FROM PARK TO REVERSE OR TO DRIVE, AFTER ABOUT 1 SECOND THE CAR "LURCHES" FORWARD OR BACKWARD. I KEEP THE BRAKE LOCKED DOWN WHEN CHANGING GEARS FOR SEVERAL SECONDS UNTIL I'M SURE IT WON'T JUMP.THIS IS DANGEROUS. WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED HAPPENING, I ALMOST RAN OVER SOMEONE IN A PAR…
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CAR: 2007 FORD 500 LIMITED. MOVING SHIFT LEVER FROM PARK TO REVERSE OR TO DRIVE, AFTER ABOUT 1 SECOND THE CAR "LURCHES" FORWARD OR BACKWARD. I KEEP THE BRAKE LOCKED DOWN WHEN CHANGING GEARS FOR SEVERAL SECONDS UNTIL I'M SURE IT WON'T JUMP.THIS IS DANGEROUS. WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED HAPPENING, I ALMOST RAN OVER SOMEONE IN A PARKING LOT AS I WANTED TO BACK OUT OF A PARKING SPOT. I TOOK THIS IN FOR SERVICE AND MENTIONED IT TO THE SERVICE MANAGER. AS HE DROVE THE CAR AROUND TO THE BACK, HE SAID HE NOTICED IT TOO AND ASKED THE TRANSMISSION MAN TO LOOK IT OVER. SINCE I WAS HAVING THE TRANSMISSION OIL CHANGED, HE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE RELATED TO OLD FLUID. (CAR HAD ABOUT 70K MILES AT THE TIME). ITS ABOUT 5K MILES SINCE THE SERVICE AND THE CARIS AS BAD OR WORSE THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN. I BELIEVE THE PROBLEM IS RELATED TO THE COMPUTER GETTING A WRONG SIGNAL FROM ONE OF THE THROTTLE SENSORS AND CAUSING THE ENGINE TO SURGE. DEALER SAID HE HAD NOT SEEN THE PROBLEM BEFORE AND DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. THE PROBLEM IS STILL OCCURRING BUT SINCE ONLY MY WIFE AND I DRIVE THE CAR, WE ARE COMPENSATING BY HOLDING THE BRAKE FOR SEVERAL SECONDS AFTER MOVING THE SHIFT LEVER. I HOPE YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM AND LET ME KNOW OR HAVE FORD PUT OUT A SAFETY RECALL AND A FIX FOR THE PROBLEM. THANKS *TR
NHTSA ODI #10355852
130,000 miles · Aug 26, 2010
Power Train
2007 FORD FIVE HUNDRED LUNGES WHEN PUT IN DRIVE OR REVERSE. HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. CAR HAS 130K MILES. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10352217
60,000 miles · Aug 22, 2010
Power Train
YET ANOTHER IDLE SURGE ISSUE. THE NHTSA SITE IS LOADED WITH THEM, AND THE INTERNET HAS EVEN MORE. VEHICLE SURGES DRAMATICALLY WHEN REMOVED FROM PARK AND PLACED IN REVERSE OR DRIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH A/C ON. ALSO SURGES FORWARD ON INITIAL ACCELERATION FROM A STOP. I OWN AUTOMOTIVE TEST EQUIPMENT, AND CAN SEE THE ENGINE COMPUTER…
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YET ANOTHER IDLE SURGE ISSUE. THE NHTSA SITE IS LOADED WITH THEM, AND THE INTERNET HAS EVEN MORE. VEHICLE SURGES DRAMATICALLY WHEN REMOVED FROM PARK AND PLACED IN REVERSE OR DRIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH A/C ON. ALSO SURGES FORWARD ON INITIAL ACCELERATION FROM A STOP. I OWN AUTOMOTIVE TEST EQUIPMENT, AND CAN SEE THE ENGINE COMPUTER COMMANDING THE THROTTLE IN EXCESS OF 16% WITHOUT THROTTLE BEING APPLIED. THE SITUATION HAS BEEN OCCURRING OVER A YEAR. IT'S OBVIOUS THAT IT'S A "THROTTLE-BY-WIRE" ISSUE INVOLVING THE COMPUTERIZED THROTTLE CONTROL SYSTEM. VEHICLE BORDERS ON UNSAFE TO DRIVE. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10351191
Mileage unknown · Aug 22, 2010
Power Train
FORD 500 THROTTLE BODY BAD. NO PARTS AVAILABLE. MAKING PAYMENTS ON CAR I CAN'T DRIVE. NO WAY TO GET TO WORK. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10351133
40,000 miles · Mar 30, 2010
Power Train
MY WIFE HAS A 2007 FORD 500. SINCE 40K MILES, SHE'S HAD CONTINOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE VEHICLE SURGING AT INAPPROPRIATE TIMES. I ALSO HAD A 2007 MODEL 500 AS A COMPANY CAR. I BEGAN EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEMS IN/AROUND THE SAME MILEAGE. SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE WITH OUR COMPANY WERE ALSO DRIVING 500'S AND EXPERIENCED THE SAME PROBLE…
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MY WIFE HAS A 2007 FORD 500. SINCE 40K MILES, SHE'S HAD CONTINOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE VEHICLE SURGING AT INAPPROPRIATE TIMES. I ALSO HAD A 2007 MODEL 500 AS A COMPANY CAR. I BEGAN EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEMS IN/AROUND THE SAME MILEAGE. SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE WITH OUR COMPANY WERE ALSO DRIVING 500'S AND EXPERIENCED THE SAME PROBLEMS. FORD SENT A REPRESENTATIVE TO GREEN FORD IN GREENSBORO, NC AND DIAGNOSED THE PROBLEM AS THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE BODY. THE VEHICLES WERE REPAIRED OUT OF WARRANTY. THE PROBLEM HAS GOTTEN PROGRESSIVELY WORSE. AS A RESULT AND AFTER THE VEHICLE ALMOST SURGED INTO OUR DAUGHTER, I TOOK MY WIFE'S CAR TO THE FORD DEALERSHIP TODAY. THE SERVICE REP ACKNOWLEDGED "SOME PROBLEMS" WITH THE THROTTLE BODY, BUT ADVISED IT WAS NOT A PROBLEM IN ALL VEHICLES. I TOLD HIM ABOUT THE SAME PROBLEMS WITH MY 500 AND THE PROBLEMS WITH THE OTHER COMPANY CARS. I EVEN OFFERED TO PROVIDE HIM THE NAME AND CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE OTHER DEALERSHIP, BUT WAS TOLD THEY WERE IN A "DIFFERENT DISTRICT" AND HAD A DIFFERENT REPRSENTATIVE. I ASKED IF THEY COMMUNICATED WITH EACH OTHER TO WHICH I RECEIVED AN INTELLIGEIBLE RESPONSE. I WORK AS AN INSURANCE INVESTIGATOR AND WILL ENSURE THIS PROBLEM IS NOT OVERLOOKED. I'VE ALMOST WRECKED THE CAR 3 TIMES IN OUR CARPORT AND PARKING LOTS AS A RESULT OF SUDDEN SURGE. IT APPEARS TOYOTA IS NOT THE ONLY CAR COMPANY WITH SUDDEN SURGES AND/OR PROBLEMS WITH THROTTLE PROBLEMS. WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT NOBODY HAS BEEN INJURED, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE SOMEONE SHOULD BE HURT OR WORSE BEFORE A COMPANY DOES THE RIGHT THING AND TAKES A PROACTIVE RESPONSE TO A KNOWN PROBLEM. THANK YOU.
NHTSA ODI #10322921
38,000 miles · Sep 28, 2009
Power Train
ENGINE IDLE SPEED IS EXCESSIVE AT INTERMITTENT INTERVALS WHILE TRANSMISSION IS IN REVERSE, CAUSES VEHICLE TO INADVERTENTLY ACCELERATE AT INAPPROPRIATE SPEEDS. LOCAL REPAIR SHOP SCANNED VEHICLES REPAIR CODES, DETERMINED IT TO BE A TRANSMISSION FAILURE. AUTHORIZED DEALERSHIP, SAID NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH THE VEHICLE AFTER THEY SC…
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ENGINE IDLE SPEED IS EXCESSIVE AT INTERMITTENT INTERVALS WHILE TRANSMISSION IS IN REVERSE, CAUSES VEHICLE TO INADVERTENTLY ACCELERATE AT INAPPROPRIATE SPEEDS. LOCAL REPAIR SHOP SCANNED VEHICLES REPAIR CODES, DETERMINED IT TO BE A TRANSMISSION FAILURE. AUTHORIZED DEALERSHIP, SAID NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH THE VEHICLE AFTER THEY SCANNED IT. VEHICLE, WENT INTO A "CREEP MODE" IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING ONE OF THE INSTANCES, BUT THE COMPUTER RESET ITSELF AFTER SEVERAL MINUTES.*TR
NHTSA ODI #10285562
37,000 miles · Aug 31, 2009
Power Train
WITH A/C ON I START CAR. PUT CAR IN FORWARD OR REVERSE. ENGINE SURGES THEN SETTLES DOWN, THIS IS QUITE DANGEROUS. BROUGHT IT IN FOR WARRANTY HELP. WAS INFORMED THAT IT MAY BE THROTTLE BODY AND THROTTLE BODY IS NOT COVERED IN DRIVETRAIN WARRANTY. FORD, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? VEHICLE HAS 41,170 MILES, THE WARRANTY FOR THIS IT…
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WITH A/C ON I START CAR. PUT CAR IN FORWARD OR REVERSE. ENGINE SURGES THEN SETTLES DOWN, THIS IS QUITE DANGEROUS. BROUGHT IT IN FOR WARRANTY HELP. WAS INFORMED THAT IT MAY BE THROTTLE BODY AND THROTTLE BODY IS NOT COVERED IN DRIVETRAIN WARRANTY. FORD, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? VEHICLE HAS 41,170 MILES, THE WARRANTY FOR THIS ITEM APPARENTLY RAN OUT AT 36,000 MILES. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE MORE THAN ANYTHING. THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE. PUTTING CAR IN GEAR AND HAVING THE ENGINE SURGE IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10282493
150,000 miles · Jan 7, 2009
Power Train
IT STARTED OUT AS A LOUD THUMP THAT ROCKED THE CAR WHEN SHIFTING INTO GEAR... THAT HAS CONTINUED BUT NOW IT ALSO WHEN ACCELERATING HESITATES THEN YOU HEAR THE THUMP AND THEN IT WILL ACCELERATE. I HAVE HAD THIS AT MY DEALERSHIP 3 TIMES NOW AND THEY REFUSE TO FIX IT. THEY CONTINUALLY SAY THE CANNOT "RECREATE" THE PROBLEM. I ALS…
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IT STARTED OUT AS A LOUD THUMP THAT ROCKED THE CAR WHEN SHIFTING INTO GEAR... THAT HAS CONTINUED BUT NOW IT ALSO WHEN ACCELERATING HESITATES THEN YOU HEAR THE THUMP AND THEN IT WILL ACCELERATE. I HAVE HAD THIS AT MY DEALERSHIP 3 TIMES NOW AND THEY REFUSE TO FIX IT. THEY CONTINUALLY SAY THE CANNOT "RECREATE" THE PROBLEM. I ALSO HAVE A AIRLEAK IN THE CAR THAT IS SO LOUD YOU CANNOT HEAR THE RADIO WHEN DRIVING ON A INTERSTATE. THEY ARE BLAMING THAT ON THE ANTENNA ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE CAR. I HAVE LESS THEN 20,000 MILES ON THIS CAR AND A EXTENDED WARRANTY. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO TO MAKE THEM FIX IT. I WORRY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THIS, I HAVE A NEWBORN AND AM AFRAID IF IT IS THE TRANSMISSION, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE, THAT IT COULD SEIZE UP AND POSSIBLY CAUSE A ACCIDENT. *TR
FORD IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2007 FORD FIVE HUNDRED AND MERCURY MONTEGO VEHICLES MANUFACTURED FROM SEPTEMBER 5, 2006, THROUGH SEPTEMBER 11, 2006. THE FUEL TANKS MAY NOT HAVE CONSISTENT WELDS BETWEEN THE FUEL TANK AND FUEL FILLER NECK SPUD WHICH CAN AFFECT THE STRENGTH OF THE JOINT. SOME FUEL TANK SPUD WELDS MAY NOT PROVIDE THE EXPECTED STRENGTH IN THE EVENT OF A SEVERE REAR IMPACT TO THE VEHICLE. AN IMPROPER WELD CAN RESULT IN A CRACK IN THE JOINT WHICH COULD ILLUMINATE THE EMISSIONS MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LIGHT, CAUSE A FUEL ODOR, OR ALLOW FUEL TO LEAK OUT.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: FUEL LEAKAGE, IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE, COULD RESULT IN A FIRE.
Remedy: DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FUEL TANK FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 16, 2011. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD MOTOR COMPANY CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP CENTER AT 1-866-436-7332.
Model-level recall history does not show whether a particular VIN is affected or has received a repair. Check a VIN with NHTSA ↗
NHTSA investigations
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PE11018 · Idle Instability
Opened May 11, 2011 · Closed Feb 7, 2013
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Vehicle Speed Control
On November 29, 2012, Ford Motor Company (Ford) initiated Customer Satisfaction Program 12N03 to extend warranty coverage terms for repair of engine idle RPM surge caused by throttle body deposits in all model year (MY) 2005 through 2007 Ford Freestyle, Five Hundred and Mercury Montego vehicles.The program extends the coverage for up to 10 years of service or 150,000 miles from the warranty start date of the vehicle (all vehicles are eligible for the program through May 31, 2013, regardless of mileage).Dealers will repair vehicles exhibiting the condition by removing and cleaning the throttle body and reprogramming the PCM with software containing an updated idle speed control strategy.According to Ford, some of the affected vehicles may experience momentary, intermittent engine idle RPM surge (idle flare) when stopped or during low speed driving maneuvers such as in a parking lot or driveway.Unstable idle speed control (dips and flares) around the target engine speed (700 rpm) can occur in vehicles with deposit build-up in the throttle body when the system adjusts engine speed in response to changes in engine load, typically from power steering application or air-conditioner compressor cycling.Idle speed control logic is only active at vehicle speeds below 3.5 mph and when the accelerator pedal is not applied.Ford testing of a vehicle with a worst case throttle body measured a maximum idle flare of 1360 RPM lasting approximately 1 second, which Ford indicated was consistent with system design to limit vehicle speed and acceleration in idle control mode.Ford indicated that the test vehicle was held in place with normal brake effort and that vehicle speed remained under 4 mph without the brake pedal applied.In addition to throttle body deposit accumulation, symptoms associated with the condition may include Check Engine lamp illumination and diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) P0505, P0506 or P061B.Ford attributed the surge condition to changes in idle air flow resulting from the progressive buildup of deposits in the throttle body from normal Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) system operation.This condition was not adequately compensated for in the original Powertrain Control Module (PCM) calibration.Ford issued a technical service bulletin on August 15, 2011 (TSB 11-8-5), releasing an updated powertrain control calibration for vehicles with CVT transmissions.On October 19, 2011, Ford issued a second bulletin (TSB 11-10-21) superseding TSB 11-8-5 and including updated powertrain control calibration for vehicles with 6-speed transmissions.Prior to Ford issuing the TSB?s, owner?s experiencing the alleged defect either received no repairs, if dealers could not duplicate the condition, or had the throttle body cleaned or replaced, which only provided temporary correction until the throttle deposit build-up returned.Ford?s revised powertrain calibrations appear to be effective remedies for the idle instability caused by build-up of throttle body deposits.However, even after the TSB?s were released, many owners experiencing the condition continued to have difficulty with proper diagnosis and repair as dealers were often either unable to duplicate the condition or were unfamiliar with the new repair procedures.Ford's new program addresses those concerns.NHTSA's testing and complaint analysis indicate that the idle speed control issue in the subject vehicles can only occur at very low speeds, are very brief events, are easily controlled by moderate brake pedal forces and result in minor increases in vehicle speed even with no braking.This investigation is closed.The closing of this in
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