2016 Ford Expedition

WHILE DRIVING AT 35 MPH THE ENGINE STARTED SHUDDERING AND HAD LOSS OF POWER. PUSHING ACCELERATOR PRODUCED NOTHING. COASTED TO SIDE OF ROAD AND POWERTRAIN FAILURE WARNING LIGHT CAME ON. CALLED FORD DEALERSHIP. THEY SAID TURN IT OFF AND IT WOULD CLEAR ITSELF AS THIS WAS A WELL KNOWN PROBLEM. IT CLEARED ITSELF. THEY SAID THIS PROBLEM WOULD REPEAT ITSELF BUT NO TELLING WHEN. THIS PROBLEM CAUSED MY WIFE TO BE PLACED IN A VERY HAZARDOUS TRAFFIC SITUATION.THIS KNOWN THROTTLE BODY DEFECT SHOULD BE RECALLED. AFTER RESEARCHING I FOUND NUMEROUS IDENTICAL COMPLAINTS.

WHILE DRIVING ON A CITY PARKWAY GOING AROUND 35-40MPH. MY EXPEDITION SUDDENLY STARTED SHUDDERING AND DECELERATING. THE WRENCH LIGHT CAME ON. I PULLED OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. I LOOKED UP IN THE OWNER'S MANUAL WHAT THAT MEANT. IT SAID TO CONTACT AN AUTHORIZED REPAIR CENTER. I WENT TO THE LOCAL FORD DEALERSHIP. THEY RAN THE DIAGNOSTIC AND SAID IT WAS THE THROTTLE BODY. THEY ALSO STATED IT IS A KNOWN PROBLEM WITH THE ECO-BOOST ENGINES. THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM WITH THIS ENGINE AND NEEDS TO BE RECALLED BEFORE THE LOSS OF POWER AND CONTROL HAPPENS ON A BUSY HIGHWAY AND SOMEONE IS INJURED OR KILLED.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 FORD EXPEDITION. THE VEHICLE ROLLED AWAY WHILE ENGAGED IN PARK POSSIBLE POWER TRAIN CONSEQUENCE PASSENGER SIDE DOOR HAD TO BE REPLACED AT OWNERS EXPENSE THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS ENGAGED IN PARK AND THE KEY WAS REMOVED FROM THE IGNITION, STARTED TO WALK INSIDE A BUILDING, NOTICED THE VEHICLE ROLLING BACKWARDS ON A FLAT SURFACE STREET. THE CONTACT OPENED THE PASSENGER DOOR IN AN ATTEMPT TO STOP THE VEHICLE, HOWEVER THE DOOR HIT THE SIDE OF A BUILDING. HE WAS ABLE TO STEP ON THE BRAKE PEDAL AND STOPPED THE VEHICLE. THE CONTACT ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE FAILURE OCCURRED ONE OTHER TIME AROUND THE 20 OF FEBRUARY 2020, BUT HE WAS INSIDE THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR A DIAGNOSTIC. NO POLICE INCIDENT REPORT WAS FILED. NO INJURIES WERE REPORTED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 70,000.

2016 MODEL, PURCHASED IN 2018. WHILE DRIVING TO WORK ON 7/26/19, DRIVING ON HIGHWAY, GOING 60 MPH THE "WRENCH" WARNING LIGHT CAME ON AND THE VEHICLE IMMEDIATELY DECELERATED TO 40 MPH, STARTING SPUTTERING AND SHAKING. I WAS ABLE TO LIMP THE VEHICLE TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND TURN OFF THE ENGINE. I WAITED A FEW MINUETS AND RESTARTED THE VEHICLE. INITIALLY IT SEEM TO RUN AS NORMAL WITH NO WARNING LIGHTS. I CONTINUED ON THE HIGHWAY FOR MAYBE 3/4 A MILE AND THE WRENCH LIGHT AND CHECK ENGINE LIGHT BOTH CAME ON AT THE SAME TIME THE VEHICLE SHUT DOWN. I WAS FORCED TO PULL OVER TO A NARROW SIDE OF THE BUSY HIGHWAY. I TURNED OFF THE ENGINE, PRAYING NO ONE WOULD HIT ME. I TURNED THE CAR BACK ON AND HEADED FOR THE LOCAL DEALERSHIP SERVICE CENTER. THE ONLY LIGHT THAT REMAINED ON WAS CHECK ENGINE LIGHT. ONCE AT THE DEALER THEY DIAGNOSED IT AS THE THROTTLE BODY WAS " OUT OF RANGE". THE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO REPLACE THE THROTTLE BODY WHICH WOULD COST ME $900. DESPITE THE CHARGES NEEDED FOR THE REPAIR, MY CONCERN IS SAFETY OF DRIVING THE VEHICLE IN WHICH THE VEHICLE WILL RAPIDLY DECELERATE ON A HIGHWAY OR INTERSTATE. OTHER DRIVERS MAY NOT RECOGNIZE THAT YOUR VEHICLE IS SLOWING DOWN AS YOU ARE NOT PRESSING THE BRAKE AND YOU ARE UNABLE TO ACCELERATE TO A SAFE AREA! I HAVE CALLED FORD AND ONLY BEEN TOLD THAT MY VEHICLE WAS OUT OF WARRANTY FOR ANY REPAIRS TO BE MADE BY FORD, AND THERE ARE NOT ANY RECALLS FOR THE VEHICLE. I HAVE SEEN OTHER LAWSUITS AND RECALLS FOR VEHICLES USING THIS THROTTLE BODY, THIS ISSUES NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AND RECALLS SHOULD BE MADE BEFORE SOMEONE IS SERIOUSLY INJURED.

2016, PURCHASED 2018. WHILE DRIVING TO FLORIDA FROM INDIANA FOR VACATION 7/6/19, ON HIGHWAY DRIVING 80MPH, VEHICLE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AND VEHICLE IMMEDIATELY LOST POWER AND WE WERE ABLE TO LIMP TO LEFT SIDE OF HIGHWAY SPITTING AND SPUTTERING, UNABLE TO ACCELERATE AND CONTINUE. TURNED ENGINE OFF AND WAITED 5-10 MINUTES TO RESTART. VEHICLE RETURNED TO SOUNDING NORMAL. WE WERE ABLE TO CONTINUE ON TO FLORIDA FOR 7DAY TRIP. THEN DRIVING HOME TO INDIANA, WHILE HIGHWAY DRIVING AND ACCELERATING TO PASS A CAR, DASH WRENCH LIGHT CAME ON AND VEHICLE LOST ALL POWER AND WE WERE BARELY ABLE TO GET TO THE LEFT UNSAFE SMALL SIDE OF HIGHWAY, UP AGAINST A CONCRETE WALL...DURING HEAVY 3 LANES OF TRAFFIC. VEHICLE AGAIN SPIT AND SPUTTERED AND BARELY ABLE TO MOVE. WE WERE UNABLE TO GET VEHICLE SAFELY OFF OF HIGHWAY. A TOW TRUCK HAD TO BE CALLED TO TOW US TO THE NEXT EXIT TO A GAS STATION. VEHICLE TURNED BACK ON AND WRENCH LIGHT OFF BUT CHECK ENGINE LIGHT NOW FLASHING, WE CHOSE TO CONTINUE DRIVING THE REMAINING 5HRS HOME GOING 50-55MPH. RESEARCHED ISSUE ONLINE AND FOUND THIS TO BE A THROTTLE BODY ISSUE, COMMON WITH FORD VEHICLES. TOOK VEHICLE TO AUTOZONE FOR DIAGNOSTIC SCAN AND YES, THE ERROR CODE P2111 "THROTTLE BODY ACTUATOR CONTROL SYSTEM,STUCK OPEN" IS WHAT WAS READ. THIS APPEARS TO BE A SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS SAFETY CONCERN AND I AM AFRAID TO DRIVE THIS VEHICLE. THIS ISSUE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH FORD. I HAVE ALREADY CALLED FORD AND A RECALL WAS NOT IDENTIFIED WITH MY VEHICLE, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A RECALL WITH OTHER FORDS IN THE PAST. THERE ARE CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS ALSO. I WILL LOG A COMPLAINT WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OFFICE AS WELL. I HAVE ALREADY PAID TO HAVE TO MANY OTHER REPAIRS DONE ON THIS VEHICLE BUT THIS ONE IS CERTAINLY A SAFETY CONCERN. LOOKS LIKE MORE MONEY WILL NEED TO BE POURED INTO THIS LEMON BY HAVING THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE BODY REPLACED. THANK YOU

I'M DRIVING AT NORMAL SPEED WHEN SUDDENLY MY MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LIGHTS UP AND NO ENGINE POWER. THE POWER STEERING, BRAKING, LIGHTING AND CLIMATE CONTROL SYSTEMS REMAIN FULLY FUNCTIONAL, HOWEVER THE VEHICLE NO LONGER REMAINS OPERATIONAL. FORD HAS A RECALL 16B32 AND CUSTOMER SATISFACTION PROGRAM IN OTHER FORD VEHICLES, BUT NOT MINE, BUT THE SAME EXACT THING IS HAPPENING. . $890 LATTER I AM HAVING MY ELECTRONIC THROTTLE BODY REPLACED WITH ONLY 52,000 MILES AND FORD HAS NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE PROBLEM SINCE THE EXPEDITION IS NOT PART OF THE CSP. APPARENTLY, IN A VARIETY OF FORD VEHICLES, THE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE BODY INTERNAL MOTOR CONTACTS MAY DEVELOP CONTAMINATION RESULTING IN INCREASED ELECTRICAL RESISTANCE. IF THIS HAPPENS, WHICH IN MY CASE IT DID, THE MIL LIGHT CAME ON AND THE I EXPERIENCED A DECREASED AMOUNT OF ENGINE POWER AND SPEED AND I COULDN'T ACCELERATE. THIS HAPPENED ON THE HIGHWAY, BUT THANKFULLY I WAS ABLE TO COAST TO THE SHOULDER WITHOUT GETTING HIT. THE DEALER IS REPLACING THE THROTTLE BODY, REPROGRAMING MY VEHICLE, AND CLEANING THE INJECTIONS. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS FOR THE 2016 FORD EXPEDITION, BUT FORD IS NOT DOING ANYTHING. I'M GLAD I WAS ABLE TO GET OVER TO THE SHOULDER WITHOUT GETTING HIT SINCE I HAD NO FUNCTION TO ACCELERATE.

AROUND JULY 2018 MY EXPEDITION STARTED JUST RANDOMLY CUTTING OFF WHILE DRIVING WITH MY 2 CHILDREN IN THE CAR. AFTER GETTING THE CODES READ IT CAME UP AS THE THROTTLE BODY. WE HAD THE THROTTLE BODY REPLACED AND IT SEEMED TO HELP UNTIL ABOUT NOV 2018 THEN INSTEAD OF CUTTING OFF WHILE DRIVING THE CAR WOULD JERK HARD AND THEN YOU COULD NOT ACCELERATE OVER ABOUT 50MPH. MULTIPLE THINGS STARTED FLASHING ON THE DASH LIKE THE WRENCH, TRACTION CONTROL, HILL DESCENT, AND CHECK ENGINE. WE GOT ALL CODES READ AND THIS TIME IT WAS THE MAP SENSOR. WE HAVE REPLACED THE MAP SENSOR 2 TIMES WITH THE MOST RECENT IN JAN 2019. NOW THE EXPEDITION HAS STARTED TO AGAIN FLASH TRACTION CONTROL, HILL DESCENT, WRENCH, CHECK ENGINE AND THE CODES ARE READING MAP SENSOR AGAIN!! WE HAVE SPENT $200 ON EACH SENSOR WE HAVE REPLACED WHICH HAVE BEEN 3! WE HAVE ANOTHER APPOINTMENT AT THE END OF JAN TO FIND OUT AGAIN IF IT IS THE MAP SENSOR FOR A 3RD TIME OR IF IT IS SOME COMPUTER MALFUNCTION. WE HAVE NO MORE WARRANTY. FORD NEEDS TO LOOK INTO THIS PROBLEM AS I HAVE READ OTHER COMPLAINTS AND IT IS DEFINITELY NOT SAFE WHEN I'M DRIVING WITH MY KIDS AND THE CAR JERKS AND THEN YOU CAN NO LONGER ACCELERATE.

THIS ISSUE BEGAN ABOUT A MONTH AGO ON MY COMMUTE HOME FROM WORK, ALL ENGINE POWER WAS LOST AS I CAME OFF THE FREEWAY, THE COMPUTER ALERTED WITH A WRENCH ICON. I PULLED OVER AND SHUT THE CAR OFF, THEN AFTER A MINUTE RESTARTED. IT STARTED OK, I THEN USED AN ODB ADAPTER TO READ THE CODES, AND FOUND A SOFT (NOT PERMANENT) CODE P2112 (THROTTLE BODY STUCK CLOSED). I IMMEDIATELY CALL THE FORD DEALERSHIP TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT. WHEN THEY GOT THE CAR, THE CODE WAS NO LONGER IN THE COMPUTER. THEY RAN A DIAGNOSTIC, DECLARED THAT THEY DID NOT FIND ANYTHING, CHARGED ME $200, AND SENT ME HOME. SECOND OCCURRENCE WAS ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO, AGAIN DRIVING HOME FROM WORK, THEN WHILE COMING UP TO A TRAFFIC LIGHT THE SAME FAILURE HAPPENED AGAIN. AFTER RESTARTING, AND DRIVING HOME, I BEGAN RESEARCHING THE PROBLEM. TODAY, WHILE RETURNING HOME IN THE RAIN DURING A 5 MILE DRIVE IT FAILED 5 TIMES, EACH TIME I HAD TO PULL OVER, SHUT IT DOWN THEN RESTART. NOW I HAVE A PERMANENT CODE STORED IN THE COMPUTER (P2112) AND AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE DEALERSHIP TO FIX IT. I AM FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT THE THROTTLE BODY WILL BE REPLACED BY THE DEALERSHIP, BUT I AM OUT OF WARRANTY NOW, AND THEY WILL INDEED CHARGE ME. I HAVE FOUND NUMEROUS OTHER COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS ISSUE, AND BELIEVE FORD SHOULD PROVIDE AN UPDATED PART THAT WILL RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. I SUSPECT THAT THIS WILL IN TIME CAUSE AN ACCIDENT, PERHAPS EVEN INJURY FOR SOMEONE. THIS IS DUE TO AUTO MANUFACTURERS REMOVING THE RATHER SIMPLE MECHANICAL LINKAGE FROM PEDAL TO THROTTLE AND TURNING THIS OVER TO A COMPUTER. TO BE SURE, IT IS THE COMPUTER THAT IS CREATING THE DANGEROUS CIRCUMSTANCES BY DISENGAGING ALL THROTTLE CONTROL WHEN THE THROTTLE BODY IS STICKING, FORCING THE DRIVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD (ASSUMING THERE IS A SAFE PLACE TO PULL OVER).